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[Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...







Bodian

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May 3, 2012
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Cumbria


Yup. Unless gas prices continued to go through the roof, inflation was always going to fall back this year. Inflation is a year-on-year measure, and from what we've been told the inflation of the last 12 months has been driven by one-off events not by prolonged pressure. Wholesale gas prices have recently fallen back to pre-invasion levels and should therefore no longer be an inflation driver (except watch the price cap go up again anyway...)
This is why the Government are playing hardball with the strikers. They know (as it was predicted) that inflation will start falling quickly once the gas price increase works it way out of the 12-month cycle - so they want to be in a position where they can say 'your 10% pay demand is 3x inflation' and gain the support of more of the public.
 




Audax

Boing boing boing...
Aug 3, 2015
3,263
Uckfield
Energy companies will have purchased gas ahead at higher prices., plus government support will slip away from April. Prices won't fall to the Autumn at best
Yup. And no doubt the regulator will allow retail prices to stay higher for longer than needed to "give the surviving companies a chance to recover what they lost" at the start of the crisis when the retail cap was lower than wholsesale costs.
 


The Clamp

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NSC Patron
Jan 11, 2016
26,182
West is BEST
Bloody hell. Poor chap's brekkie will be stone cold by the time slippery Sunak has finished with his stupid questions. FFS man, let the fella eat.
Ha!

I actually thought there was a huge overreaction to this footage.

Why can’t a homeless person have a background or interest in finances or aspirations to be part of the industry?
 






rippleman

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Oct 18, 2011
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Ha!

I actually thought there was a huge overreaction to this footage.

Why can’t a homeless person have a background or interest in finances or aspirations to be part of the industry?
Absolutely no reason why not. But he has been out on the streets all night so interrogate the poor chap once he has had his scoff.

(I learnt decades ago never to judge a homeless person. Chap in Southampton who was a sub-editor on one of the big daily newspapers. His wife and two kids wiped out in a car accident and he just gave up on everything. Polite and well spoken - never asked for anything. Never judge just because someone is on the streets. It is rarely through choice)
 


Blue3

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Jan 27, 2014
5,833
Lancing
Mark my words the tories have and continue to deliberately run down our public service’s and currently their aim is on the NHS which is at a total crisis point.
soon you will be hearing backbenchers saying we can no longer afford to run the NHS and they only way forward will be to privatise certain elements
Always remember the Tories voted against the setting up of the NHS they never wanted it but so popular was it with the voting public they had no option than to try and out spend the other political parties for fear of political oblivion, but the perfect storm has rolled over the nation for Tories to consider the question if you wanted change in the NHS now is the time.
 




Blue3

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Jan 27, 2014
5,833
Lancing
I worked before retirement for 37 years in the NHS and in all that time only twice was it funded, staffed and correctly infrastructured and that was the first two terms of Tony Blair during that time 4 new hospitals were built and funding found to progress the start of the RSCH project
 




The Clamp

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Jan 11, 2016
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Tory minister on the radio now putting an audacious spin on the NHS crisis. Claiming that healthcare systems worldwide are in crisis and it's because of Covid.

Next step? "Covid broke the NHS and now we have to privatise to fix it. We don't want to do this but we have no choice" ?? Maybe. Maybe not.

As an aside, are the people who phone into the Jeremy Vine (dreadful man) show pulled from some sort of home for the permanently bewildered?
 








nicko31

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Jan 7, 2010
18,571
Gods country fortnightly
Tory minister on the radio now putting an audacious spin on the NHS crisis. Claiming that healthcare systems worldwide are in crisis and it's because of Covid.

Next step? "Covid broke the NHS and now we have to privatise to fix it. We don't want to do this but we have no choice" ?? Maybe. Maybe not.

As an aside, are the people who phone into the Jeremy Vine (dreadful man) show pulled from some sort of home for the permanently bewildered?
Many on the Tory right dream about NHS privatisation, especially if they and their mates can get in on the action. Get another term of the Tories and we can kiss goodbye to a free at point of use health system.
 




Audax

Boing boing boing...
Aug 3, 2015
3,263
Uckfield
Tory minister on the radio now putting an audacious spin on the NHS crisis. Claiming that healthcare systems worldwide are in crisis and it's because of Covid.

Next step? "Covid broke the NHS and now we have to privatise to fix it. We don't want to do this but we have no choice" ?? Maybe. Maybe not.

As an aside, are the people who phone into the Jeremy Vine (dreadful man) show pulled from some sort of home for the permanently bewildered?
Good read here: https://www.ft.com/content/b593116d-f948-4757-b2fa-c74adadc8b42

Especially the "Long-term underfunding" section with accompanying graphs.
 




The Clamp

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Jan 11, 2016
26,182
West is BEST
Many on the Tory right dream about NHS privatisation, especially if they and their mates can get in on the action. Get another term of the Tories and we can kiss goodbye to a free at point of use health system.
I think we will see “priority waiting rooms” in NHS hospitals and suchlike en route to total privatisation. Reserved for those with private health insurance held with insurance companies owned by the Tory’s and their chums.
 






Machiavelli

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Oct 11, 2013
17,770
Fiveways
Mark my words the tories have and continue to deliberately run down our public service’s and currently their aim is on the NHS which is at a total crisis point.
soon you will be hearing backbenchers saying we can no longer afford to run the NHS and they only way forward will be to privatise certain elements
Always remember the Tories voted against the setting up of the NHS they never wanted it but so popular was it with the voting public they had no option than to try and out spend the other political parties for fear of political oblivion, but the perfect storm has rolled over the nation for Tories to consider the question if you wanted change in the NHS now is the time.
If you follow some of the more political threads on here, that's precisely what's happening, and it coincides with much of our oligarch-owned, off-shore press barons turning their attention to questioning the status of the NHS, as a result of its current drained predicament.
 




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