[Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...

[Thunder Bolt]

Just looked up the charge for terrorism for Paul Golding , refusing to give The Police the pin number of his mobile phone after a trip to Moscow

So does that make Kimi Badenoch also a terrorist or is Paul Golding mellowing by endorsing a women of Nigerian origin as PM , could there be a hidden message in the surname of Ms Badenoch that Britans First have picked up on

If Paul Golding joined NSC and thumbed up one of my posts would that make me a Nazi and or terrorist

He was charged and convicted, You may not agree with the charge but it was brought by the security, so obviously there was enough evidence. We haven't quite descended into kangaroo courts yet.

If I stood for the highest public office in the land, and Golding wanted to endorse me, I would call it out and refuse it.
Paul Golding has admitted his members have infiltrated the Tory membership which is another red alarm.

 

[The Clamp]

bib-full , that's an expression I haven't come across before , would appreciate an explanation

Bib was an old word for Bible. Still used in court. “To bib”’is to swear on the bible. Anyway, in this case it means “tells us a lot”.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

It’s a tricky one. The facts are that Britain First have endorsed her and she has been knocked out of the leadership race. I haven’t seen any evidence she is a white supremacist. Perhaps the thinking behind the endorsement was to get the only black candidate eliminated ? The internet did the rest. Not an episode that will encourage ethnic minority participation in politics.

Rishi Sunak is part of BAME.

 

[deletebeepbeepbeep]

There ***** have downed tools.

[tweet]1549719809817968640[/tweet]

They all gone on their holidays early.

 

[The Clamp]

They all gone on their holidays early.

One very much got the impression that when PMQ’s was done today, they were done. Very much an “end of term” vibe.

 

[Neville's Breakfast]

Rishi Sunak is part of BAME.

Yes, I deliberately referred to her as black rather than BAME. Just trying to make sense of the story and focusing on the chain of events from endorsement to her being knocked out of the race. Seems odd because it’s pretty clear she is an unusual candidate for a fascist organization to endorse. All very murky.

 

[carlzeiss]

double post

 

[carlzeiss]

Bib was an old word for Bible. Still used in court. “To bib”’is to swear on the bible. Anyway, in this case it means “tells us a lot”.

Thanks , I rather like that ,as far as of being of no concern to me , even compressive school failures get the chance to vote, I'll have you know

 

[Stato]

As for people arriving on inflatable boats being treated like criminals , are they being housed in prisons , I wasn't aware of that and shocking if true . Perhaps under a labour government they would be given a Dominos pizza and £200 clothing voucher upon arrival , then transported by coach to a 4 star hotel with full board , laundry service and spending money provided while waiting for suitable free housing to be found for them

Or perhaps they might just let them perform paid employment whilst waiting for their cases to be decided... You know, like all the other countries do:

https://www.irishtimes.com/business...-work-could-help-uk-labour-shortage-1.4803065

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...-calls-to-allow-asylum-seekers-work-in-the-uk

 

[carlzeiss]

Or perhaps they might just let them perform paid employment whilst waiting for their cases to be decided... You know, like all the other countries do:

https://www.irishtimes.com/business...-work-could-help-uk-labour-shortage-1.4803065

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...-calls-to-allow-asylum-seekers-work-in-the-uk

You mean like in France where migrants can be seen sleeping on the streets of Paris

 

[Stato]

You mean like in France where migrants can be seen sleeping on the streets of Paris

Ralph McTell's 'Streets of London' was actually inspired by the experiences of homeless Parisians, not Londoners. That was written in 1969, but it is of course the French's current asylum policies that have caused homelessness.

As we have Priti Patel in charge of refugee policy over here, there is obviously no homelessness at all in London!!??*.

* - Surely you could see the huge gaping hole in your whataboutism, even as you typed it. Did you imagine that you were arguing with Diana Ross at the 1994 World Cup opening ceremony?

 

[FatSuperman]

Wouldn't have just been easier to post a link to Russ Jones' excellent tweet rather than just copy all of his graphs and lists?

Yes bad form to not quote the superb Russ as the source for most of that. I wanted the actual detail in the thread!

Will try and edit / update post to include links to his two tweets.

 

[carlzeiss]

Ralph McTell's 'Streets of London' was actually inspired by the experiences of homeless Parisians, not Londoners. That was written in 1969, but it is of course the French's current asylum policies that have caused homelessness.

As we have Priti Patel in charge of refugee policy over here, there is obviously no homelessness at all in London!!??*.

* - Surely you could see the huge gaping hole in your whataboutism, even as you typed it. Did you imagine that you were arguing with Diana Ross at the 1994 World Cup opening ceremony?

I didn't know that the homeless people in this country are migrants , thanks for the info

 

[golddene]

Wouldn't have just been easier to post a link to Russ Jones' excellent tweet rather than just copy all of his graphs and lists?

I disagree [MENTION=232]Simster[/MENTION], I would much rather read a post which has been researched and includes the published findings than to click a link not knowing whether it is relevant or interests me. Each to his/her own admittedly. I personally appreciate a direct avenue to a posters information rather than a link to a tweet which invariably leads onto other links which although can be interesting really waste my time. At this point I would like to thank [MENTION=33965]FatSuperman[/MENTION] for his excellent post and content.

 

[Machiavelli]

Seem to recall our participation in the Iraq war being rather unpopular back in the day .

I don't just recall it, I remember actively opposing it on numerous occasions. My hunch is that you didn't. Irrespective of that, you haven't done terribly well in identifying a list of calamities, so I'll just operate on the assumption that you've got some deep-seated prejudice against the Labour Party.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Yes, I deliberately referred to her as black rather than BAME. Just trying to make sense of the story and focusing on the chain of events from endorsement to her being knocked out of the race. Seems odd because it’s pretty clear she is an unusual candidate for a fascist organization to endorse. All very murky.

She is also reported as homophobic and transphobic.

https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/p...tq-rant-in-explosive-leaked-recording-291002/

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

As I said yesterday, and was shot down.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2022/07/19/want-vote-keep-boris-johnson-pm-demand-tory-members/

Louis Auguste
@AugusteOf
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@itstheskyelark2
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@bolddigger52
S.17 effectively states the Board can change the rules as they see fit.

Or

If the Board receive a petition from 10,000 members requesting a change.

Schedule 2 states a resigning leader may not enter the Leadership election.

Do we have 10,000 signatures on the petition yet?



Seems a gray area to me, I guess if the get 10k names we will see what happens.

He’s not resigned yet has he? Just said he’s leaving.

 

[beorhthelm]

Or perhaps they might just let them perform paid employment whilst waiting for their cases to be decided... You know, like all the other countries do:

https://www.irishtimes.com/business...-work-could-help-uk-labour-shortage-1.4803065

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...-calls-to-allow-asylum-seekers-work-in-the-uk

seem obvious. too many are concerned about what that might do to labour markets and attracting economic migration, if we accept they're going to stay let them contribute as soon as possible.

 

[nicko31]

Interesting Theresa May refused to clap Johnson after his final PMQ

https://twitter.com/ITVNewsPolitics...2?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^tweet

Every other Tory clapping is complicate to his multiple crimes

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Louis Auguste
@AugusteOf
·
4h
Replying to
@itstheskyelark2
and
@bolddigger52
S.17 effectively states the Board can change the rules as they see fit.

Or

If the Board receive a petition from 10,000 members requesting a change.

Schedule 2 states a resigning leader may not enter the Leadership election.

Do we have 10,000 signatures on the petition yet?



Seems a gray area to me, I guess if the get 10k names we will see what happens.

He’s not resigned yet has he? Just said he’s leaving.

The Telegraph reported 2000. As you said wait and see.
In the meantime, he walks out of PMQs saying Hasta la Vista Baby.