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[Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...



Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
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Oct 8, 2003
56,097
Faversham
Him calling an election won't make any difference to his leadership of the Tory party, they'll still kick him out, he won't fight the election as their leader

The fear is that if he calls an election and dissolves parliament this will make it extremely hard to force him out.

My guess is that until he loses a vote of no confidence he won't walk.

In the meantime it will be interesting to see if he can assemble a rabble of street activists akin to Trumps gaggle of nut jobs. I don't see it, myself.
 




Neville's Breakfast

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May 1, 2016
13,450
Oxton, Birkenhead
No, again, I apologise. I don't wish to hold you to account. All I will say is that, to me, leaving the EU was a monumental change, and it would need to have monumentally positive consequences, tangible and predicatble, to justify the risk.

A good mate of mine, university educated, well off, played poker once with The Lizard, voted leave for good reasons, but now regrets it on the grounds that nothing tangibly good has been obtained, and some disadvantages have arisen. He was mainly against 'red tape' and finds that his red tape has increased since we left.

I suppose the pivotal issue is that if you feel that it hardly matters either way whether we stay or leave, what is the motivation to vote leave? It all seems....somewhat quixotic.

Oh well, never mind. Take care of yourself. Chat again soon :thumbsup:

Cheers Harry, you too.
 


TomandJerry

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Oct 1, 2013
12,323
Rumours are Johnson will not resign, and would be in favour of calling a snap election if felt threatened enough

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Neville's Breakfast

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May 1, 2016
13,450
Oxton, Birkenhead
Of course you are entitled to vote for whatever reason you choose. But each time you come on NSC and then tell us what a good idea it was to do that (the only ones I pick up on are why you voted for Brexit or Johnson), I will point out a simple factual reason why it wasn't and ask you for a response as to why you think it was a good idea ? At that point you will then refuse to discuss it, give some excuse that you don't understand it, or often refuse to post any further.

And we go round and round this every few months, always the same, always the same result, and I really can't understand why you keep instigating it :shrug:

Do keep up :wink:

I don’t post on demand. Nor does anyone else. I am happy with my reasons for voting. Im not sure I really care if you don’t understand.
 








nicko31

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Jan 7, 2010
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Gods country fortnightly
Rumours are Johnson will not resign, and would be in favour of calling a snap election if felt threatened enough

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He prorogued parliament and sent Mogg to lie to the Queen. He will do anything…
 


Gwylan

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Jul 5, 2003
31,827
Uffern
I saw a bit with Adam Boulton who said they queen can just say nah given the circumstances.

This came up on Twitter. It would be a bold move by the Queen to deny that - Johnson will pitch it as the monarchy standing in the way of the people's will. The last time this happened we had seven years of civil war and a monarch with his head chopped off. Not sure we're ready for that
 




TomandJerry

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Oct 1, 2013
12,323
PPS resignations continue
The Tory resignations keep coming. Here are some of the latest from MPs.

David Duguid has resigned as a trade envoy for Angola and Zambia. In a statement, he said: “In light of recent events, I believe the Prime Minister’s position is now untenable.”

James Sunderland MP has resigned as a PPS to the environment department.

Peter Gibson has resigned as a PPS international trade department.

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A1X

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Sep 1, 2017
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Deepest, darkest Sussex
Give the Twitter guy a pay rise

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A1X

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Sep 1, 2017
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Deepest, darkest Sussex
This came up on Twitter. It would be a bold move by the Queen to deny that - Johnson will pitch it as the monarchy standing in the way of the people's will. The last time this happened we had seven years of civil war and a monarch with his head chopped off. Not sure we're ready for that

Can we do a compromise and nominate a royal to get their head chopped off without the whole war bit?
 


A1X

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Sep 1, 2017
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38 resignations, only needs two more to match the Staying Up tracker
 


WATFORD zero

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Jul 10, 2003
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This came up on Twitter. It would be a bold move by the Queen to deny that - Johnson will pitch it as the monarchy standing in the way of the people's will. The last time this happened we had seven years of civil war and a monarch with his head chopped off. Not sure we're ready for that

I'd prefer it if Brenda said

OK

and then said

'I didn't know you wanted to Prorogue Parliament as I wasn't there'
'Apparently you did ask to Prorogue Parliament but my staff didn't tell me. I'm very angry with them'
'It seems I was there when you asked to Prorogue Parliament, but I don't remember'
'Apparently I do remember, but ................

etc etc :wink:
 




Kinky Gerbil

Im The Scatman
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Jul 16, 2003
58,792
hassocks
This came up on Twitter. It would be a bold move by the Queen to deny that - Johnson will pitch it as the monarchy standing in the way of the people's will. The last time this happened we had seven years of civil war and a monarch with his head chopped off. Not sure we're ready for that

Is it the peoples will to have another election?

It would be interesting if he did try it.
 






mejonaNO12 aka riskit

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Dec 4, 2003
21,921
England
As all the MPs are now admitting their truths I may as well say mine


I'm 35, and despite my utter contempt for the woman......I fancy Nadine Dorries a bit.
 






Lever

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Feb 6, 2019
5,443
As T.S.Eliot wrote in Murder in the Cathedral 'The last act is the greatest treason: To do the right deed for the wrong reason'. The Johnson toadies have realised they will be on the losing side, and for the sake of their personal ambition (not as a matter of integrity) they have changed tack and are pushing for Johnson's exit.....
 


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