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Kinky Gerbil

Im The Scatman
NSC Patron
Jul 16, 2003
58,790
hassocks
I wouldn’t give Truss a job shelling peas. She just oozes incompetence.

I don’t think even Boris Johnson thinks her fit for office. And that’s a bloke who has the precise qualities of a failed military man.

She’s another one that isn’t actually a Tory, she just saw it as the easiest way to get power.
 




Audax

Boing boing boing...
Aug 3, 2015
3,263
Uckfield
I accept all the flack I have received re now is not the time to remove BJ (and I repeat I detest the man and hope he and these evil Tories go soon) but if he goes now and Truss is in charge......... Better the devil you know.....

If Boris gets removed, I don't think it'll be any of his cronies that he's filled most of the cabinet with who gets the job in place of him. Truss, Patel, Dorries, Raab, etc etc are all too damaged by association. If Boris gets removed, it's because the party at large has decided he can't win the next GE. The same will hold true for his stooges, so any replacement will need to be a new face.

From the current cabinet, the one to watch is Ben Wallace. And then I'm sure there will be challengers from the back benches. Tugendhat has recently made noises that he'll put his name in the hat (while stopping short of actually declaring himself a proper challenger, he dropped the worlds biggest hint). And you can be sure Hunt will try again.

I have to admit I don't know enough about Wallace or Tugendhat to know whether either or both would be better than Johnson. But what little I have seen and heard, they do seem better options.
 




The Clamp

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Jan 11, 2016
26,182
West is BEST
Another day, another step towards a police state

Lest we forget Boris Johnson was the man who, fearing civil unrest, purchased these to use on the people of London. From Germany, fittingly.

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“Johnson bought the crowd-control vehicles from the German police in 2014, in anticipation of social unrest, without checking whether they could be used on London’s streets. In one of his most humiliating episodes as mayor, the then home secretary, Theresa May, banned them from use anywhere in England and Wales. It left the capital’s taxpayers with three expensive white elephants”
 






Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
The Steve Bray Law... *

* The Stop Brexit Man is Steve Bray. The Government added that clause purely to shut him up. It took 25 police officers to take his stuff, and then follow him round after. Great use of police time.

We're slipping towards a fascist state.

In the meantime, a woman was killed in East London.
 




TomandJerry

Well-known member
Oct 1, 2013
12,323
More and more delusional by the week?

Russian President Vladimir Putin would not have invaded Ukraine if he were a woman, Boris Johnson has claimed.

The UK prime minister said the "crazy, macho" invasion was a "perfect example of toxic masculinity" and he called for "more women in positions of power".

Mr Johnson's comments come ahead of a Nato meeting where allies will discuss how to respond to future threats.

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Blue Valkyrie

Not seen such Bravery!
Sep 1, 2012
32,165
Valhalla
I accept all the flack I have received re now is not the time to remove BJ (and I repeat I detest the man and hope he and these evil Tories go soon) but if he goes now and Truss is in charge......... Better the devil you know.....
Now is not the time to remove Johnson. It should have been done months ago instead. That was the time.

But given we didn't remove him before, he must go today. If not today, then tomorrow etc.

Every day Johnson is in charge the country sinks a little bit lower.
 




Kinky Gerbil

Im The Scatman
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Jul 16, 2003
58,790
hassocks
I see the government are now trying to ban free bets/free spins on gambling website.

Instead of trying to help those that have an issue they just and punish everyone.

In the big scheme of things, it’s not a major thing, just very annoying that they seem to want to control everything
 




darkwolf666

Well-known member
Nov 8, 2015
7,651
Sittingbourne, Kent
I see the government are now trying to ban free bets/free spins on gambling website.

Instead of trying to help those that have an issue they just and punish everyone.

In the big scheme of things, it’s not a major thing, just very annoying that they seem to want to control everything

Part of the problem is they don’t have any REAL policies, now that Brexit is “done” and just keep making sound bite decisions, that are often (nearly always) poorly thought through!
 




darkwolf666

Well-known member
Nov 8, 2015
7,651
Sittingbourne, Kent
It’s the easy option isn’t it, as you say sound bites.

Yep, make a grandiose statement, then “move on” leaving those on the coal face to implement said unworkable ideas.

Over my 40+ years working life I have encountered this on many occasions, inevitably the companies have either ultimately gone bust, or the big ideas man moved on...
 








hans kraay fan club

The voice of reason.
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Mar 16, 2005
62,759
Chandlers Ford
Seeing as it's the 2nd time you've brought this up, could you explain why you think the two events are linked?

The two events themselves are clearly not directly linked. I don't imagine TB or anyone else is suggesting that they are.

Simply highlighting that the ludicrous waste of resources, sent to silence one harmless protester, could be so much better deployed.
 


Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
Seeing as it's the 2nd time you've brought this up, could you explain why you think the two events are linked?

Women in London have been attacked, raped and assaulted by police workers. The Met was even found to be unlawful in breaking up the Sarah Everard vigil.

If 20 police are involved in stopping one man making a noise in Parliament Square, they aren't doing their job elsewhere.

Policing in this country is done by consent. The Met and a couple of other police forces, like South Yorks police do not have public consent. I say that with a nephew in the SY police.


Here's a couple of examples of Met policing on women

A professor, Dr Konstancjia Duff was arrested on suspicion of obstructing police whilst handing a card to a 15 year old with legal advice on it.
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/met-officers-laughed-used-derogatory-26038751

A 15 year old girl was stripped searched in a school whilst she was menstruating on an unfounded suspician she had cannabis
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...on-over-strip-search-of-girl-at-london-school
 
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Billy the Fish

Technocrat
Oct 18, 2005
17,594
Haywards Heath
The two events themselves are clearly not directly linked. I don't imagine TB or anyone else is suggesting that they are.

Simply highlighting that the ludicrous waste of resources, sent to silence one harmless protester, could be so much better deployed.

I'm a long time critic of policing tactics and the met in particular, and I'm certainly no supporter of authoritarian policies like the crime and policing bill, but suggesting that officers from Westminster who are outside one of the most heavily guarded buildings in the country in a Monday afternoon could've been deployed to the suburbs on a Saturday night/Sunday morning in order to prevent a murder is just idiotic point scoring.

On any other thread the people liking and posting about it would consider such point scoring extremely distasteful. I think it's making you all lose your minds for the sake of having a pop at Boris Johnson! (See also comparisons with nazis)
 
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Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
I'm a long time critic of policing tactics and the met in particular, and I'm certainly no supporter of authoritarian policies like the crime and policing bill, but suggesting that officers from Westminster who are outside one of the most heavily guarded buildings in the country in a Monday afternoon could've been deployed to the suburbs on a Saturday night/Sunday morning in order to prevent a murder is just idiotic point scoring.

On any other thread the people liking and posting about it would consider such point scoring extremely distasteful. I think he's mentally is making you all lose your minds for the sake of having a pop at Boris Johnson! (See also comparisons with nazis)

On the contrary, I am having a pop at Pritti Patel and her evil policing Act which came into force yesterday.
 


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