Klaas
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Yes. And like Trump, Johnson and co now don't seem to give a toss what the rest of the electorate think, just got to shore up the get Brexit done, immigrant loathing, flag shagging core support.
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- Thread starter TomandJerry
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Yes. And like Trump, Johnson and co now don't seem to give a toss what the rest of the electorate think, just got to shore up the get Brexit done, immigrant loathing, flag shagging core support.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
Or to put it in music hall speak
It’s the rich wot gets the pleasure
It’s the poor wot gets the blame.
nicko31
Well-known member
Yes this 100%, sadly more and more parallels. As Steve Bannon said "flood the zone with shit" the same is happening here. There is just so much of it now its being harder to nail Johnson on one thing
We're not at the point at where the ruling party deny the result of free and fair elections but if they lose the next time it may come.
vegster
Sanity Clause
- May 5, 2008
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This is very true, Obama described this as " Truth Decay " ...Johnson has learned from Trump how to confuse, lie and repeat and keep getting away with it. The trick is to propose something to his core supporters such as the flights to Rwanda, and then inevitably, when it's legality is questioned in court and its stopped, claim to be the victim of the Deep State or "Lefty Lawyers " ....or maybe its the Civil Service too trying to block his " populist " policies...this seems to be the method now and it seems to be working sadly as there seems to be a rump of people who firmly believe that " Boris is doing his best " despite the obvious.
darkwolf666
Well-known member
To be fair, that is true - and THAT is the problem!
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
I’m already suspicious of postal votes. In 2019 a politician and Kuennsberg both mentioned postal votes before Election Day. In 2016, many many people complained their postal votes were delivered too late for them to be returned. On investigation, it seems the company responsible for printing & sending out postal votes is Tory.
I used to have a postal vote but will vote in person every time now until I’m in my dotage.
Ooh it’s a corner
Well-known member
Last night’s Question Time was rather depressing. There was enough evidence from the audience that the clown in charge(not Fiona Bruce) STILL has support from many. Unbelievable but true!
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
Ooh it’s a corner;10292739 said:
There's been quite a discussion on Twitter about that. Newcastle doesn't have one Tory MP nor councillor. Someone who did go said they were asked for their political view on the questionnaire. The producer of QT is known to Farage and co, and has been photographed lunching with them.
nicko31
Well-known member
And look at the effort Trump made to derail the postal system in the states, some will look on this with envy.
Papa Lazarou
Living in a De Zerbi wonderland
Someone who was in the audience was told by the production team that as the Tories have a parliamentary majority, they needed to ensure the majority of the audience were supportive of the Tories. Mad if true.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
Do you remember the surprise Fiona Bruce showed when QT was in Reading, when a woman said she had voted for Brexit but was slamming it now?
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/en...stion-time-brexit_uk_615ff3e9e4b0c1ab4bb2b13b
Any links?
BBassic
I changed this.
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There's an excellent book called 'The Death of Truth'. Written about Trump's America but the concepts can be applied everywhere. Very interesting, highly recommend it.
https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/573029/the-death-of-truth-by-michiko-kakutani/
I thought it was well known that you would be asked about your political views before being invited into the audience. This is from the BBC website as to how they are chosen:-
Question Time selects local audiences which reflect a broad range of political views. People apply to be in the audience for Question Time via the website and by phone and producers get in touch to ask questions on their previous voting record and future voting intentions, whether they have party political membership and also how they voted in the EU Referendum. This is to ensure a range of views are represented in the audience. Occasionally, if production staff feel any group or view is under-represented in the applications, they will promote the programme through relevant local media channels to encourage people to apply.
As with the make-up of the panels, Question Time is aiming to achieve due impartiality in the membership of the audience across the series as a whole, rather than being confined to an exact mathematical formula for each programme. However, particular guidelines will apply during election periods to both panels and audiences.
The problem is you can't control who puts their hand up to comment on the debate. I watch the first few questions last night and when someone banged on about moving on from partygate I would say there was lukewarm applause suggesting most didn't agree!
But there are Tory MPs in the region. Darlington, Hartlepool, Blythe etc.
Papa Lazarou
Living in a De Zerbi wonderland
Best moment on Question Time last night was when an elderly lady in the audience put her hand up and when Fiona Bruce called upon her, she asked the CEO of Iceland stores why her sister can get a home delivery in Shipley, West York, but she no longer can in Newcastle.
Thanks.
Robinjakarta
Well-known member
https://www.theguardian.com/politic...-declines-to-say-if-boris-johnson-trustworthy
'Boris Johnson thinks he's honest.'
'Boris Johnson thinks he's honest.'