- Jul 10, 2003
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I wonder how much they've allocated for nightclasses to re-educate the last couple of generations who (in common with this Government, ironically) will have absolutely no idea what they're talking about
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I wonder how much they've allocated for nightclasses to re-educate the last couple of generations who (in common with this Government, ironically) will have absolutely no idea what they're talking about
Blue Valkyrie
Not seen such Bravery!
Good Stuff.
More truth coming out.
The Police like re-opening Covid investigations as they did so with Starmer.
Time for them to re-investigate
I've already written a stern letter to my Tory MP about the disgrace in DownIt Street. He has to go.
You are usually very quick to point out that lawbreakers should be punished. Why so different about people blocking the road?
Motogull
Todd Warrior
- Sep 16, 2005
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Excellent. It is pleasing but not surprising to have it reconfirmed that there are decent tories in parliament.
But far too many standing around watching like children on fireworks' night. Speak up you spineless kunnts.
As someone who's, now, ex-wife has worked in a private school for years and who's children went to said school ( against my wishes ), I think I need to add something to your excellent post. You may pay to go to a private school, the classes might be smaller than state school and the resources and buildings much better BUT, those teaching in the private sector often don't have the qualifications required to teach ( the ex-Mrs WS does by the way ).
Yes, amazing how that lie has become currency.
'Secondary' picketing was of course made illegal by Thatcher. I am not sure whether people are being stupid or mendacious when they forget to say 'secondary'. Especially when it isn't secondary (as it almost never is these days - or the picketers would be instantly arrested. Which was partly the point of [MENTION=2318]Peteinblack[/MENTION]).
She does seem to organise and attend his work events (garden party, birthday cake, etc, etc).
Read Decline and Fall. Fail your Oxbridge degree? Get a job as a teacher in a private ('public') school.
How? They are not bound by the National Curriculum. This also gives them the freedom to promote weird doctrines (which happens in a weird doctrine - i.e., religious - school). You used to have the freedom to teach that homosexuality is an illness, or blaspemous, too. These days one assumes that promoting hate is illegal so the subject is presumably avoided or mentioned in passing as 'people we should pity'.
And they are charities so they don't pay proper tax.
The very most expensive ones are where our leaders are trained. Mostly (but not exclusively) Conservatives.
And working class tories love it. Makes them proud to be British
A very important point!
Read Decline and Fall. Fail your Oxbridge degree? Get a job as a teacher in a private ('public') school.
How? They are not bound by the National Curriculum. This also gives them the freedom to promote weird doctrines (which happens in a weird doctrine - i.e., religious - school). You used to have the freedom to teach that homosexuality is an illness, or blaspemous, too. These days one assumes that promoting hate is illegal so the subject is presumably avoided or mentioned in passing as 'people we should pity'.
And they are charities so they don't pay proper tax.
The very most expensive ones are where our leaders are trained. Mostly (but not exclusively) Conservatives.
And working class tories love it. Makes them proud to be British
I’m not sure if it’s still the case but up til quite recently they were not required to report physical or sexual abuse to the authorities.
And what the elite aren’t required to do, the elite don’t do.
withdeanwombat
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…..but how much whisky will I get in my single measure at the Rabbit and Dog?
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You shall receive precisely what you deserve. No less and certainly no more.
Generally agree, but I understand Corbyn was, in fact, anti EU, despite nominally being on the remain side of the argument.
If he had even tried a teensy bit to promote the argument for remain, it may have had an effect on the outcome.
As someone who was incarcerated as a boarder in both preparatory and public school for about ten years, many years ago(I left school 56 years ago), I have a view on the standards of teaching I received.
At prep school, in the ‘50’s, I believe several of our teachers were ex services and I’m not aware of what qualifications they had or didn’t have for teaching. However, as a young lad, I believe , on the whole, they were pretty good at their jobs and made the lessons interesting and informative. I have to say that looking back, there is not one that I can recall as standing out as a lousy teacher. At public school, the picture was far more mixed and the standard of teaching really did vary quite considerably. The good teachers were very good and were in a majority, but the poor teachers really were shite. I can still remember their names to this day.
That was all a long time ago and following the exam results that my old ‘prison’ now produce, it appears that matters have improved quite considerably. It also appears from reading the old boys yearly magazine that the teachers who variously come and go are all highly qualified and many of those that leave go on to take up more senior roles in both the public and private sectors.
Another thing that has improved from all those years ago is pastoral care, which just didn’t exist in my day.
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I recommend you read 'Sad little Men' - Private Schools and the ruin of England'; it was an eye opener for me to understand how we ended up getting Cameron and Johnson at the helm of our country and why they are totally unsuitable for the role .... https://www.foyles.co.uk/witem/biog...hXj7ngeg3W2yNWXaFJzSeOaHc5rLD-nRoCxrcQAvD_BwE
I believe Alex Renton’s book Stiff Upper Lip is meant to be a better book as I understand Beard’s publication concentrates mainly on Cameron and Johnson and is full of sweeping generalisations.
I have to say that not all ex public schoolboys come out as damaged goods and although the day I left school was one of the happiest days of my life, ‘freedom at last!’, I reckon I have gone on to be a reasonably well balanced individual as have many of my peers, despite the hardships and injustices that often prevailed at my school, back in the day.Today, the place is unrecognisable from all those years ago.
I must say, we were never given or thought we had sense of entitlement, but then again, I didn’t attend Eton.
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I believe Alex Renton’s book Stiff Upper Lip is meant to be a better book as I understand Beard’s publication concentrates mainly on Cameron and Johnson and is full of sweeping generalisations.
I have to say that not all ex public schoolboys come out as damaged goods and although the day I left school was one of the happiest days of my life, ‘freedom at last!’, I reckon I have gone on to be a reasonably well balanced individual as have many of my peers.
I didn’t attend Eton though!
Would you say (as I would about my Grammar School experience) that you may have achieved that in spite rather than because of your time there?
'Sad Little Men' focuses primarily on the writer's experience NOT Cameron and Johnson (and Beard didn't go to Eton) but it certainly sheds light on the general private school culture....... worth reading, honestly!
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Dorset Seagull
Once Dolphin, Now Seagull
I attended Eaton. Loved burning those £100 notes in front of the homeless
One can see how boarding school could sow the seeds of monsters like Johnson. I found boarding school to be a strange paradox; on one hand it teaches independence, strength of character and how to fend for yourself. In some respects. On the other hand it teaches you that you can throw your laundry in a pile and three days later it's cleaned, pressed and ready for your collection, women are there to serve you, it is encouraged to treat anyone below you in the hierarchy like dirt.
I would hope that there have been positive changes in boarding schools but we must remember the very "strength" of these institutions is that they do not change. That their traditions are sacred and not to be interfered with by the outside world.
"We shall continue this way with or without your approval no-matter how appalling our behaviour appears, it suits us so.. yah boo sucks to you". Sound like a familiar attitude?
I know people have all sorts of different experiences at boarding school, good and bad. I tried to get through it without getting any of it on me. I did not like it and I do not think it is a healthy way to raise children. The day I left aged 16 was one of the best days of my life, and continues to be so. In many ways, people like Johnson never left.
To them, the world is an extension of their old schools, where the consequences of their actions are taken no more seriously than losing house merits or the results of an inter-house Puddox match.
I would hope that there have been positive changes in boarding schools but we must remember the very "strength" of these institutions is that they do not change. That their traditions are sacred and not to be interfered with by the outside world.
"We shall continue this way with or without your approval no-matter how appalling our behaviour appears, it suits us so.. yah boo sucks to you". Sound like a familiar attitude?
I know people have all sorts of different experiences at boarding school, good and bad. I tried to get through it without getting any of it on me. I did not like it and I do not think it is a healthy way to raise children. The day I left aged 16 was one of the best days of my life, and continues to be so. In many ways, people like Johnson never left.
To them, the world is an extension of their old schools, where the consequences of their actions are taken no more seriously than losing house merits or the results of an inter-house Puddox match.