I think you've identified a cognitive shortfall there, combined with the classic Johnson-approved 'they're all the same' nonsense.
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I think you've identified a cognitive shortfall there, combined with the classic Johnson-approved 'they're all the same' nonsense.
Blue Valkyrie
Not seen such Bravery!
- Jul 10, 2003
- 27,751
Just when you think it would be impossible for a cabinet to be even more incompetent
Department for Education descends into chaos as civil servants can’t find desks after returning to office
Civil servants at the Department for Education have been forced to work in corridors and canteens because of a lack of desks after they were ordered back to the office. Whole teams have been turned away from some offices because of overcrowding after the Education Secretary Nadhim Zahawi told officials to “immediately” return to “pre-Covid working”. Chaotic scenes occurred because the department has twice as many employees as available desks.
Cabinet Office minister Jacob Rees-Mogg wrote to colleagues urging them to send a “clear message” to the civil service about returning, and Mr Zahawi told MPs he expected “office use to return to normality pre the pandemic”.
https://inews.co.uk/news/education/department-for-education-chaos-civil-servants-cant-find-desks-return-office-1642070
That's what happens when you listen to Jacob 'Act of self-harm' Rees-Mogg
Department for Education descends into chaos as civil servants can’t find desks after returning to office
Civil servants at the Department for Education have been forced to work in corridors and canteens because of a lack of desks after they were ordered back to the office. Whole teams have been turned away from some offices because of overcrowding after the Education Secretary Nadhim Zahawi told officials to “immediately” return to “pre-Covid working”. Chaotic scenes occurred because the department has twice as many employees as available desks.
Cabinet Office minister Jacob Rees-Mogg wrote to colleagues urging them to send a “clear message” to the civil service about returning, and Mr Zahawi told MPs he expected “office use to return to normality pre the pandemic”.
https://inews.co.uk/news/education/department-for-education-chaos-civil-servants-cant-find-desks-return-office-1642070
That's what happens when you listen to Jacob 'Act of self-harm' Rees-Mogg
Blue Valkyrie
Not seen such Bravery!
Their hot desks are bit too cold it seems.Just when you think it would be impossible for a cabinet to be even more incompetent
Department for Education descends into chaos as civil servants can’t find desks after returning to office
Civil servants at the Department for Education have been forced to work in corridors and canteens because of a lack of desks after they were ordered back to the office. Whole teams have been turned away from some offices because of overcrowding after the Education Secretary Nadhim Zahawi told officials to “immediately” return to “pre-Covid working”. Chaotic scenes occurred because the department has twice as many employees as available desks.
Cabinet Office minister Jacob Rees-Mogg wrote to colleagues urging them to send a “clear message” to the civil service about returning, and Mr Zahawi told MPs he expected “office use to return to normality pre the pandemic”.
https://inews.co.uk/news/education/department-for-education-chaos-civil-servants-cant-find-desks-return-office-1642070
That's what happens when you listen to Jacob 'Act of self-harm' Rees-Mogg
Is it PotG?
Thrifty non-licker
Lever's articulate outburst has enabled me to roll back slightly, I have identified one member I can listen to.
Benn, just like his old man (RIP), conducts himself properly, not all frothy mouthed and bitter.
His questions are researched, have a point to them and allow a debate.
If only there were more like him.
Benn, just like his old man (RIP), conducts himself properly, not all frothy mouthed and bitter.
His questions are researched, have a point to them and allow a debate.
If only there were more like him.
I think that’s an unfortunate attitude but not a surprising one from you. You appear to have swallowed the Daily Mail / Nasty Party line.
It’s your kind of attitude that results in us still having a convicted criminal as PM.
A shame.
- Jan 30, 2008
- 831
Stop picking on Boris hes alreight and theirs a fundemental difference between him and starmer as Boris said he wouldnt resign for a law he created where as old boring starmer said he will resign for a law he didnt create so thats why he is for the chop so cheerio leftie
Regards
DF
Regards
DF
Deportivo Seagull
I should coco
TomandJerry
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- Oct 1, 2013
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Boris Johnson is expected to scapegoat the head of the civil service Simon Case this week in a desperate effort to save his own job, as both men face stinging criticism in a report into lockdown-breaking parties in Downing Street.
The long-awaited findings of the senior mandarin Sue Gray will, according to several sources, lay particular blame on Case, the UK’s most senior civil servant, for allowing a drinking culture to develop in which rule-breaking parties became commonplace during lockdowns.
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The long-awaited findings of the senior mandarin Sue Gray will, according to several sources, lay particular blame on Case, the UK’s most senior civil servant, for allowing a drinking culture to develop in which rule-breaking parties became commonplace during lockdowns.
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- Jul 10, 2003
- 27,751
Imagine being early 20's having studied hard at Uni, being lucky and taking advantage of that luck, getting a junior post in the civil service, maybe diary manager to a junior minister, working your balls off for six months, only to then find out 'your boss' was moving on and being invited to his leaving drink. Should you go ? You think it would be poor form not to.
At the leaving do, the PM waltzes in, says a few nice comments about your boss, clinks his glass with a few of you and waltzes off. For your career you're glad you came.
Only now you get an FPN and he doesn't. That's fair enough, for going to your boss's leaving do, isn't it
At the leaving do, the PM waltzes in, says a few nice comments about your boss, clinks his glass with a few of you and waltzes off. For your career you're glad you came.
Only now you get an FPN and he doesn't. That's fair enough, for going to your boss's leaving do, isn't it
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Blue Valkyrie
Not seen such Bravery!
Wasn't Simon Case the original one who was going to write the report until there was pressure for him to recuse himself ?
I guess he'll be announcing his retirement soon.
- Jul 10, 2003
- 27,751
You seem a little confused, one minute you back the Daily Mail line of they're all the same and desperately try to do everything and anything to justify Johnson, then suddenly you decide they aren't
Maybe you need to sit down and have a little think about what you actually think
And thanks for the thumbs up
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Imagine being early 20's having studied hard at Uni, being lucky and taking advantage of that luck, getting a junior post in the civil service, maybe diary secretary to a junior minister, working your balls off for six months, only to then find out 'your boss' was moving on and being invited to his leaving drink. Should you go ? You think it would be poor form not to.
At the leaving do, the PM waltzes in, says a few nice comments about your boss, clinks his glass with a few of you and waltzes off. For your career you're glad you came.
Only now you get a criminal record and he doesn't. That's fair enough, isn't it
10k to keep my mouth shut, a good reference and a job with one of my former boss’s supporters would probably make it easier of course
- Jul 10, 2003
- 27,751
Trust me, that wouldn't happen at that level.
Luckily any friends and associates I have left are way beyond and far too experienced not to see that one coming. In my experience, most civil servants I have dealt with are far more principled, honest and competent than the majority of politicians
But Civil servants are certainly the ones at fault here
I assume you haven't forgotten that over 150 of the 'civil servants' within the cabinet office are political advisors (SPADS) who are now classed as 'civil servants' 
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Plus of course a FPN does not result in a criminal record.
studio150
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Imagine being early 20's having studied hard at Uni, being lucky and taking advantage of that luck, getting a junior post in the civil service, maybe diary secretary to a junior minister, working your balls off for six months, only to then find out 'your boss' was moving on and being invited to his leaving drink. Should you go ? You think it would be poor form not to.
At the leaving do, the PM waltzes in, says a few nice comments about your boss, clinks his glass with a few of you and waltzes off. For your career you're glad you came.
Only now you get a criminal record and he doesn't. That's fair enough, isn't it
A FPN does not give the recipient a criminal record, so the youngest is just out of pocket.
- Jul 10, 2003
- 27,751
And f*** up their career in the Civil service. I've corrected the post to make it clear they don't have a criminal record
I do think most people would be stunned at the level of security checks, including interviews with your family, friends and everything you have ever done, supported or posted on social media, police cautions, FPNs in order to get any serious security clearance in the Civil Service.
None of which any politician ever has to undergo in order to become a Secretary of State responsible for Law and Order, Security, MI5, Foreign affairs or any other aspect of Government in the UK
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Blue Valkyrie
Not seen such Bravery!
...and in the comments following I found this sage advice for the next election....
An amusing twitter thread:
https://twitter.com/SoozUK/status/1528331128221868032
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