[Politics] Tory meltdown finally arrived [was: incoming]...

[TomandJerry]

In the latest installment of the end-of-session parliamentary ping ping, MPs have voted down changes to the elections bill favoured by the House of Lords.

In two divisions, MPs have rejected an attempt by the Lords to remove a section of the bill giving ministers the power to issue directions to the Electoral Commission, the body that regulates elections, in the form of a “strategy and policy statement”. In a third division, MPs also rejected a Lords amendment that would have expanded the list of documentation accepted under the new rule in the bill requiring voters to have photo ID.

The “strategy and policy statement” proposal has been strongly criticised by the Electoral Commission itself, the Commons public administration and constitutional affairs committee and the Committee on Standards in Public Life, which said it was “deeply troubled by the long-term risk to our democratic system that is inherent” in the plan.

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[pb21]

obviosuly there would still be a lead time, once rolling the programme should be able to deliver a dozen or so over a few years. modular reactors made off site, shipped into location that has been prepped. its certainly less than the 10-15 year cycle for a full nuke plant. if they are clever*, they'll put them on existing nuke or other power station sites to reduce a bunch of complaint and infrastructure.

*people responsbile for delivery of course. not the government, they'd want to put them somewhere for jobs.

I guess in 10-years there could potentially be a few of these up and running, I'll be very surprised if it is more than that though. But another factor is the cost, who will pay for them? Presumably cheaper than traditional nuclear power, but not cheap?

Will the private sector cough up, will Johnson's new Keynesian Tory party subsidise the cost? We don't want any unsecure investment from the Chinese, we've left the EU to take back control so no luck there, seem to be in the international relations business with Rwanda recently, maybe they could chip in?

I jest, but it's just another reason why saying he is going to build a nuclear power every year utter codswallop, as he might say himself.

 

[beorhthelm]

I guess in 10-years there could potentially be a few of these up and running, I'll be very surprised if it is more than that though. But another factor is the cost, who will pay for them? Presumably cheaper than traditional nuclear power, but not cheap?

Will the private sector cough up, will Johnson's new Keynesian Tory party subsidise the cost? We don't want any unsecure investment from the Chinese, we've left the EU to take back control so no luck there, seem to be in the international relations business with Rwanda recently, maybe they could chip in?

I jest, but it's just another reason why saying he is going to build a nuclear power every year utter codswallop, as he might say himself.

cost is under £2b a unit. at that price, the utility companies can pay for a few each year as they roll-out. this isnt Johnson's idea, he just happens to be around, its a brilliant plan from bright minds at RR.

 

[A1X]

In the latest installment of the end-of-session parliamentary ping ping, MPs have voted down changes to the elections bill favoured by the House of Lords.

In two divisions, MPs have rejected an attempt by the Lords to remove a section of the bill giving ministers the power to issue directions to the Electoral Commission, the body that regulates elections, in the form of a “strategy and policy statement”. In a third division, MPs also rejected a Lords amendment that would have expanded the list of documentation accepted under the new rule in the bill requiring voters to have photo ID.

The “strategy and policy statement” proposal has been strongly criticised by the Electoral Commission itself, the Commons public administration and constitutional affairs committee and the Committee on Standards in Public Life, which said it was “deeply troubled by the long-term risk to our democratic system that is inherent” in the plan.

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You can tell a lot by what legislation a Government passes. So there’s a bill to rig elections, but nothing to,help the cost of living crisis.

 

[pb21]

cost is under £2b a unit. at that price, the utility companies can pay for a few each year as they roll-out. this isnt Johnson's idea, he just happens to be around, its a brilliant plan from bright minds at RR.

The technology definitely seems to be excellent, will read up more on this. Hopefully these can be bought online promptly. However, I just read this article, which says:

"Phase 2 will be under way in about May of this year, with a view to completing GDA in about 2024, and power on grid in about 2030 for the first SMR."

https://world-nuclear-news.org/Articles/Rolls-Royce-on-track-for-2030-delivery-of-UK-SMR

Then this:

"Schedule: an SMR can be built on-site in four years"

https://assets.publishing.service.g...A_Projects_5-7_-_SMR_Cost_Reduction_Study.pdf

So, we might see the first one built and operational in 10 years, what's Johnson got planned for the meantime to keep up his building one nuclear power station a claim ontrack?!

 

[lawros left foot]

The technology definitely seems to be excellent, will read up more on this. Hopefully these can be bought online promptly. However, I just read this article, which says:

"Phase 2 will be under way in about May of this year, with a view to completing GDA in about 2024, and power on grid in about 2030 for the first SMR."

https://world-nuclear-news.org/Articles/Rolls-Royce-on-track-for-2030-delivery-of-UK-SMR

Then this:

"Schedule: an SMR can be built on-site in four years"

https://assets.publishing.service.g...A_Projects_5-7_-_SMR_Cost_Reduction_Study.pdf

So, we might see the first one built and operational in 10 years, what's Johnson got planned for the meantime to keep up his building one nuclear power station a claim ontrack?!

I’ve just got 7 solar panels, so that’s until 2029 sorted for him.

 

[Motogull]

Woah woah woah...are you saying that those protestors were...right?

Is that a new chant from the wankpuffins up the '23?

 

[beorhthelm]

The technology definitely seems to be excellent, will read up more on this. Hopefully these can be bought online promptly. However, I just read this article, which says:

"Phase 2 will be under way in about May of this year, with a view to completing GDA in about 2024, and power on grid in about 2030 for the first SMR."

https://world-nuclear-news.org/Articles/Rolls-Royce-on-track-for-2030-delivery-of-UK-SMR

Then this:

"Schedule: an SMR can be built on-site in four years"

https://assets.publishing.service.g...A_Projects_5-7_-_SMR_Cost_Reduction_Study.pdf

So, we might see the first one built and operational in 10 years, what's Johnson got planned for the meantime to keep up his building one nuclear power station a claim ontrack?!

fair enough, i gathered 2024-25 was planned for first one out.

 

[TomandJerry]

Chancellor Rishi Sunak has said it would be "silly" to provide more support to tackle rising energy bills now, before knowing what will happen to prices in the autumn.

Households faced a 54% hike in energy costs this month, along with record-high inflation hitting their pockets.

Opposition parties have called for an emergency budget from the government to focus on the cost-of-living crisis.

But Mr Sunak said he wanted to see what happened with energy prices first.

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[Billy the Fish]

OK, so what easier win than insulation?

I don't think there are any easy wins, the energy situation needs attacking from every angle but with long term, realistic and achievable targets.

I'd like to see them go full tilt on renewables with nuclear backup and bring back grant schemes for solar panels, the old one was working so I'll never understand why it was scrapped. Another, better grant scheme for insulation would help for sure.

 

[Barnet Seagull]

It would be silly to support now. Everyone knows the Conservatives will provide more support to families closer to an election

 

[vegster]

I don't think there are any easy wins, the energy situation needs attacking from every angle but with long term, realistic and achievable targets.

I'd like to see them go full tilt on renewables with nuclear backup and bring back grant schemes for solar panels, the old one was working so I'll never understand why it was scrapped. Another, better grant scheme for insulation would help for sure.

Its hilarious that Johnson likes to beat Starmer and Labour about being anti nuclear and pledges to build a nuclear power station every year...so, how many have the Tories and Johnson built in the last decade I wonder?

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It's pretty much guaranteed that almost every new nuclear power station is over budget and over due time wise come completion.

 

[A1X]

Its hilarious that Johnson likes to beat Starmer and Labour about being anti nuclear and pledges to build a nuclear power station every year...so, how many have the Tories and Johnson built in the last decade I wonder?

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It's pretty much guaranteed that almost every new nuclear power station is over budget and over due time wise come completion.

Also I can’t imagine it being a vote winner in many of the constituencies where they’re likely to be planned. Especially if Labour play up the “built quickly, not safely” angle.

 

[vegster]

Also I can’t imagine it being a vote winner in many of the constituencies where they’re likely to be planned. Especially if Labour play up the “built quickly, not safely” angle.

Indeed, NO ONE wants a nuclear power plant anywhere near them ....any new build nuclear will require years, possibly a decade, of Public inquiries before the go ahead....even then they are rarely brought in on schedule.....hilarious!

 

[beorhthelm]

Indeed, NO ONE wants a nuclear power plant anywhere near them ....any new build nuclear will require years, possibly a decade, of Public inquiries before the go ahead....even then they are rarely brought in on schedule.....hilarious!

right. they also want power to be on, cheap, and also zero carbon. cant do it without nuclear.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

No tory meltdown incoming as far as I can see.

Even sending people 'unlawfully' back to care homes to die...

'Nothing to see here'

And so it goes.

 

[Kinky Gerbil]

Starmer now being investigated over lockdown rule breaking.

What is wrong with the police? Won’t investigate, then will investigate months later

 

[raymondo]

Its hilarious that Johnson likes to beat Starmer and Labour about being anti nuclear and pledges to build a nuclear power station every year...so, how many have the Tories and Johnson built in the last decade I wonder?

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It's pretty much guaranteed that almost every new nuclear power station is over budget and over due time wise come completion.

You are right about Johnson of course, and about nuclear power stations being late and over budget (as are most infrastructure projects)...but I'd still build them in a hurry.

 

[raymondo]

Also I can’t imagine it being a vote winner in many of the constituencies where they’re likely to be planned. Especially if Labour play up the “built quickly, not safely” angle.

Rolls Royce will roll out mini ones to many towns and cities, they'll become as common as electricity substations on our housing estates

 

[darkwolf666]

Starmer now being investigated over lockdown rule breaking.

What is wrong with the police? Won’t investigate, then will investigate months later

This has zero to do with the police “re-investigating” and is all about a desperate attempt by a desperate government to smear and cloud what they were doing to ignore the rules, they themselves set.

The letter, sent to Durham constabulary, has elicited this response from the force.

“As a courtesy, we have replied to Mr Holden to confirm we have received that letter and will consider its contents before responding in due course.”

Doesn’t sound like Starmer now being investigated to me...

Deflection, smearing, shit throwing, call it what you like, all done in the name of saving Boris Johnson’s skin and those of his cabinet colleagues who know they would be toast if their master went!