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Kneon Light

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Jul 24, 2003
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I don't think it's an important issue.

Why not? Do you not believe in something the vast majority of scientists believe is fact or do you simply think the melting of the ice caps, increased tropical storms, destruction of habitat and loss of farmland (leading to increased famine) around the world is not important?
 


Rod Marsh

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Aug 9, 2013
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I've not been persuaded that it is as important as you believe. Going back to the original point, I'd rather the time spent on this discussion in school was spent elsewhere.
 












Kneon Light

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I've not been persuaded that it is as important as you believe. Going back to the original point, I'd rather the time spent on this discussion in school was spent elsewhere.

Perhaps you would have benefited from more education on the subject whilst at school?

Which aspects of Geography/Science should teachers be teaching instead of Climate change? It won't be English or Maths as these are taught in, well, English and Maths! By the way you may not know that education on Climate change involves an evaluation of the evidence.
 




Rod Marsh

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I studied it in higher education. Not that it makes any difference to the point i'm making. I'd still rather have more time spent by teachers on raising English and math standards in secondary schools.
 


Kneon Light

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I studied it in higher education. Not that it makes any difference to the point i'm making. I'd still rather have more time spent by teachers on raising English and math standards in secondary schools.

As I've said Global Warming is not taught in English and Maths but in other subjects (Geography and Science). Removing global warming from the curriculum would not lead to more English and Maths lessons it would simply lead to different Science or Geography content being taught. Students have more than enough time studying English and Maths but it's important they have a balanced curriculum and study other subjects also. Teaching Global warming in Science and Geography will improve students English Skills anyway as it will involve persuasive arguing/essay writing.

Anyway as I said previously Gove screwed schools and is now likely to screw the environment too.
 


Deportivo Seagull

I should coco
Jul 22, 2003
5,472
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I studied it in higher education. Not that it makes any difference to the point i'm making. I'd still rather have more time spent by teachers on raising English and math standards in secondary schools.

Well clearly it was a waste of your time.
 








The Antikythera Mechanism

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Aug 7, 2003
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Looks like POB and also has the sort of blubbery mouth that means I can't look at or listen to him

Also....
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heathgate

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This election result is full of ironies, the most significant being the younger generation that influenced it so much will pay the heaviest price. Tory policies on social care and pensions, which were redistributive from the older generation to the younger, will now not happen.

The weakened government will also likely be forced into a spending spree. Good, you may say. But we're already horribly indebted. It's the younger generations that will see vast chunks of government revenues spent, not on vital public services, but on debt interest payments. Sadly, the fabled magic money tree really doesn't exist.

Added to all this, I fear we could now end up with the worse of all worlds on Brexit - outside the sphere of influence but still shouldering the negatives of EU membership.

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vegster

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May 5, 2008
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. Sadly, the fabled magic money tree really doesn't exist.



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It did for the bank bailout....
 


heathgate

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It did for the bank bailout....
That was emergency borrowing/lending (not from the exchequer).... and certainly in the case of Lloyd's, has now all been paid back with a net gain of circa £500m.

This proposed spending by Corbyn, simply put, will just go into the black hole of public spending, never to be seen again. Corporation and higher earner taxation is not a precise science, if those two sources dry up... ie move abroad, or not generate the tax take imagined by Jezza.... then what happens?

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vegster

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That was emergency borrowing/lending (not from the exchequer).... and certainly in the case of Lloyd's, has now all been paid back with a net gain of circa £500m.

This proposed spending by Corbyn, simply put, will just go into the black hole of public spending, never to be seen again. Corporation and higher earner taxation is not a precise science, if those two sources dry up... ie move abroad, or not generate the tax take imagined by Jezza.... then what happens?

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Ah yes, OK then. Let's push on with austerity and be quiet then.
 




heathgate

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Ah yes, OK then. Let's push on with austerity and be quiet then.
Yep... it seems the sensible option at the moment,... you know, get the accounts into a more manageable position.... just like you presumably do with your own domestic finances... yes?... no?

Where exactly do you think the trillions are going to come from to build all those houses, roads, schools, rail, hospitals, doctors surgeries etcetera... considering we need to accommodate 500k net increase in population each and every year.... have you tried driving anywhere in this country lately?.....

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vegster

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May 5, 2008
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Yep... it seems the sensible option at the moment,... you know, get the accounts into a more manageable position.... just like you presumably do with your own domestic finances... yes?... no?

Where exactly do you think the trillions are going to come from to build all those houses, roads, schools, rail, hospitals, doctors surgeries etcetera... considering we need to accommodate 500k net increase in population each and every year.... have you tried driving anywhere in this country lately?.....

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I see what you mean, so, I'll just have to muddle along and accept my 1% rise every year or two and be grateful.
 


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