To the guys with the banner near the North west corner...

[Bold Seagull]

[MENTION=4645]bha[/MENTION]mike1: TB needs to look at Barber & all the way down to the manager for a serious restructuring programme to get this club back on its feet
#BHAFC
This is what I posted on twitter last night straight after the game
Seems everyone is in the same boat with this one now

No way is this going to happen. TB didn't get where he is today believing he's made lots of wrong calls. He might concede he got the Hyppia appointment wrong and sort this current mess out.

But, is he going to suddenly believe he's got the whole structure of the club and each of the key appointments he's made wrong as well? Not a chance.

 

[Jolene81]

Maybe he should learn a new skate board trick instead of abusing other people?

Well maybe the people/person who challenged him should set a better example! Not really going to learn any better behaviour when people react like that! They should have just laughed it off he's a kid for ****s sake!

I sit in the middle of the north stand & I got pissed off with the attitude of a few people a couple of rows back from me who and one guy behind me who proceeded to call me a slut (Think he must have confused me with his mum) because I was sick off him shouting 'ATTACK' in my ear, even when Stockdale had the ball! Maybe I should 'challenge' all of them at the next game? Or maybe suggest they need to learn a new skateboard trick?

 

[Pondicherry]

No way is this going to happen. TB didn't get where he is today believing he's made lots of wrong calls. He might concede he got the Hyppia appointment wrong and sort this current mess out.

But, is he going to suddenly believe he's got the whole structure of the club and each of the key appointments he's made wrong as well? Not a chance.

He will if he thinks he wins financially.

 

[Brighton Boy]

So to summarise then, that prick that calls himself The Judge got high and mighty to other fans again. He really is a ****, no doubt either himself or the cretins he goes with will be on here to defend him and tell everyone what a lovely guy he is really.

Couldn't agree more mate. Being in and around that last night was just as embarrassing as the football.

 

[Commander]

Are you serious?!? What kind of moron 'challenges' a 14yr old kid who is obviously just showing off to their mates!? If you think that's acceptable you are a cock!

Why? If someone is squaring up to you and getting in your face and swearing at you, why shouldn't you ask them if they wish to do the same thing when you see them on the concourse now they are only with two of their mates? If you go around acting like that it will come back to haunt you one day.

 

[Commander]

Are you serious?!? What kind of moron 'challenges' a 14yr old kid who is obviously just showing off to their mates!? If you think that's acceptable you are a cock!

Just to be clear, I don't mean 'challenge' as in challenge to a fight, that would be pathetic. I just mean a 'so what was all that about' sort of thing.

 

[*Gullsworth*]

Things have been too good for too long. We've gone soft, the passion has left us. To go from the Goldstone to Gillingham and Withdean to the Amex, has just proved to be a huge cataclysmic shift in our thinking as fans or a collective voice. Those of us the fought against the corruption of Archer, the lacklustre FA, the nimbys in the city Council and then a certain Lewes MP, have lost our passion to unite. I'm not saying there are not those out there that will no longer voice an opinion and act on it but the drive to achieve something has gone because we all have the feeling that we've achieved it. The Amex was the goal and we got it.
We now have a new enemy, that of apathy. If this club goes down, and if things don't change all over I'm afraid it will, then Mr Bloom will find funding a sinking ship difficult. Will he sell? Will he encourage investment elsewhere and give up some of his holdings? We just don't know. The danger is that TB has all the cards, I love the guy for what he has done but if he does not re structure the clubs management then I have my doubts about his chairmanship.
We need an across the board effort from fans, Gulls eye style, BISA style, banners, letters, protests, we need all this back. We need Mr Bloom to listen and to change things because the club is in free fall and if Mr Bloom doesn't realise this then we need a mass fan effort to make him realise.

You are sensible captain. The danger of one man owning the club, regardless of how much he has done for that club is that he should never be beyond critisism. Hopefully Mr Bloom can sense the feeling of the majority of the fans and act to prevent losing the support of those fans.

 

[el_ciddy]

Well maybe the people/person who challenged him should set a better example! Not really going to learn any better behaviour when people react like that! They should have just laughed it off he's a kid for ****s sake!

I sit in the middle of the north stand & I got pissed off with the attitude of a few people a couple of rows back from me who and one guy behind me who proceeded to call me a slut (Think he must have confused me with his mum) because I was sick off him shouting 'ATTACK' in my ear, even when Stockdale had the ball! Maybe I should 'challenge' all of them at the next game? Or maybe suggest they need to learn a new skateboard trick?

Women.

 

[ATFC Seagull]

My favourite part of this incident was the fact that it happened UNDER the police box, and you could see the police in there desperately trying to work out what was going on, wishing they'd designed it with a glass floor.

 

[Jolene81]

Women.

Wow give yourself a pat on the back for that response. Your parents must be proud

 

[Jolene81]

Just to be clear, I don't mean 'challenge' as in challenge to a fight, that would be pathetic. I just mean a 'so what was all that about' sort of thing.

Surely it would have been obvious what it was about? It was a KID thinking he's clever & cool in front of his mates! I guess some of the people on here have forgotten what it's like to be a young teenager thinking they are the big man. Why would anyone feel the need to approach a kid when all it required nothing more than a point, laugh & shrug! Makes me laugh that you can justify someone doing that but the PBC getting a bit rowdy is wrong! Comical

 

[Captain Sensible]

Ok, so last night was a pretty unedifying occasion for lots of brighton fans.

The Judge got it wrong and has confused supporting the team with supporting Hyypia. His actions and those of his son and assorted hangers on was reprehensible last night. Hopefully he will be along to apologise at some point, and realises that he was in the wrong.

I would also like to point out that the NSK/Police Box Crew is not just the Judge. Certainly a large number of us disagreed with the Judge's actions last night and we spent an awful lot of time stopping fights from breaking out. I was the one who convinced the stewards that they could not take the Hyypia Out banner down for example. As a group we are not all pro Hyypia, in fact in the main we want him gone. It is a shame that this is yet another us and them situation amongst our fans.

How to solve it:
Ask the club to move to the centre of the North.
Start joining in with the other songs in the north that are not started by the NSK.
You never know, some if yours might get sung as well.
One voice of many is stronger than just many different voices.
Or is that not what you guys want?
I do support any kind of team support, but at the moment the way things are the NSK/police box v rest is damaging the Amex atmosphere.
Also if you want Hyppia out, then chant for it. That's how fans call for a managers head, saying nothing at the game and then just writing you want him out on a message board or twitter is not going to get the club to listen. Also I believe it's a larger change that's needed.
Build a bonfire,
Build a bonfire,
Put Sami Hyypia on top,
Put Burke and Barber in the middle,
And we'll burn the f@cking lot!!

Over to you....

 

[Captain Sensible]

It's a lot easier to unite when your left with your absolute hardcore support in the dark days of the Goldstone, the trips to Gillingham, and the wind rain swept Withdean. There is nothing else to do but show some unity.

We've got 20,000 extra people now (well, maybe 15k) a lot of whom are just casual or new fans enjoying going to a football match at a first class stadium. The 5000 or so hardcore protesting through the 90's and noughties are now spread through the 1901, West Stand Upper, North Stand, wherever, all mixed up with the customers on a day out.

We were never going to indoctrinate 20,000 more people to have that same hardcore passion as the 5 or 10,000 people during the dark days. Only time will do that, and perhaps if there are any positives at all to take from our current situation, is that many new fans will realise supporting a club is about passion, about a sense of belonging and ownership and having your collective voice heard.

You don't need to mobilise 20000 at first, maybe just 200. If that 200 are organised, more will follow.

 

[Lord Bracknell]

No way is this going to happen. TB didn't get where he is today believing he's made lots of wrong calls. He might concede he got the Hyppia appointment wrong and sort this current mess out.

But, is he going to suddenly believe he's got the whole structure of the club and each of the key appointments he's made wrong as well? Not a chance.

Tony Bloom's problem is that he will never admit that he's made a mistake and he surrounds himself with yes-men who won't dare suggest that he has.

 

[Captain Sensible]

Tony Bloom's problem is that he will never admit that he's made a mistake and he surrounds himself with yes-men who won't dare suggest that he has.

Harty has been shot down suggesting this, I think he was wrong to implicate NSC as also being a 'yes man' but the gist of his argument was that TB has surrounded himself with a yes man in Paul Barber. Barber is overseeing that everyone else is a yes man and don't you, I, or even a fan at the game suggest that Tony has got it wrong.
We need to change this.

 

[el_ciddy]

Wow give yourself a pat on the back for that response. Your parents must be proud

I tried replying sensibly once and you went off on some random tangent, glad I didn't waste my time again after your last reply.

 

[Mutts Nuts]

You should probably ask why the pathetic 14 year old kids feel the need to threaten other fans who are just voicing their opinions. Especially when said 14 year old kids then shit themselves when challenged away from all their mates at half time. If they talk the talk they should walk the walk, they can't have it both ways.

Can`t see you facing up to any one older than 14 to be honest,

 

[Commander]

Surely it would have been obvious what it was about? It was a KID thinking he's clever & cool in front of his mates! I guess some of the people on here have forgotten what it's like to be a young teenager thinking they are the big man. Why would anyone feel the need to approach a kid when all it required nothing more than a point, laugh & shrug! Makes me laugh that you can justify someone doing that but the PBC getting a bit rowdy is wrong! Comical

I was a young teenager once. I had to learn you can't behave like that. Everyone does.

 

[Commander]

Can`t see you facing up to any one older than 14 to be honest,

I think you'd probably be surprised if you met me.

 

[Jolene81]

I tried replying sensibly once and you went off on some random tangent, glad I didn't waste my time again after your last reply.

Must have missed your sensible answer