[Albion] To Avoid Potter Bashing - Staying Up Tracker - 2020/21 - Game 38 Update - 1 OVER

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Giraffe

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There are always one or two teams that do better than "expected", last season it was Sheff Utd, the season before Burnley. But the general predictability of the league still stands. Aston Villa and Everton may be a bit rogue, but would you bet against the normal top 6 or 7 taking their place. One might drop out but I doubt it will be more than that come the end of the season and don't forget because we are a bottom team we are expecting to win at home and draw away effectively against all of the bottom 11 other than ourselves. So the top 9 teams are excluded. This therefore means there will always be 2/3 teams who get out of this bottom 10 but don't make the top 6/7 and generally they change each year.
 






nickbrighton

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Yes, I understand all of this, you patronising ****, hence why I said "I get the reasoning". Nontheless, it still feels strange.

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well that's rather pleasant. Nice that there is civility on this board still, resorting t to name calling really enhances your opinion.
 




schmunk

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well that's rather pleasant. Nice that there is civility on this board still, resorting t to name calling really enhances your opinion.

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Uh_huh_him

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If you ask (or go anywhere near) the question on this thread.....
Then you are gonna get some patronising responses.

Can't wait until we get to squeaky bum time... always draws out the weak and foolish posters.
Then it's a bloodbath.
 


goldstone

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Having a "staying up tracker" highlights what is somewhat depressing about being in the Premier League. Best we can hope for season after season is to avoid relegation.
 




FatSuperman

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That's the reality of where we are at the moment. It's not anything to be ashamed about in my opinion. Obviously we have a longer term ambition, but we are up against a load of teams doing the same thing - so there is only so much we can influence.
 


Machiavelli

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That's the reality of where we are at the moment. It's not anything to be ashamed about in my opinion. Obviously we have a longer term ambition, but we are up against a load of teams doing the same thing - so there is only so much we can influence.

We are up against teams with the same ambition. Most, however, are adopting a different strategy, which is to pay to secure that position as early as possible. Our strategy is oriented more towards the future, and it'll start to yield once we start selling players to top ten clubs, which will come soon enough, perhaps even in January but, if not, I suspect it'll come next summer.
Lamptey, White and Bissouma are the most likely candidates to go first, with Maupay, Trossard, Alzate and Webster in the next tier.
We then have a whole host of candidates that look as though they have the ability to push into the 25 man squad, first 18, and starting 11, with those signings made in the latest window amongst their midst (Zeqiri, Modler, Karbownik) alongside those with real potential in the u23s and out on loan (Sanchez, Sanders, Roberts, Molumby).
 


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Just for good order, this is how everyone lines up after the latest round of games. A respectable 11th for us.
 

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Having a "staying up tracker" highlights what is somewhat depressing about being in the Premier League. Best we can hope for season after season is to avoid relegation.

Realistically there are only 9 (at best) teams for whom that is not the primary objective (the big 6, Leicester, Everton and Wolves).
 


fleet

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The issue with the stay up points just now is that I’m not sure home or away count for anything. We can expect away games to yield a higher return and home to be less than desired.
 


FatSuperman

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The issue with the stay up points just now is that I’m not sure home or away count for anything. We can expect away games to yield a higher return and home to be less than desired.

The evidence from the post-lockdown games suggests there is definitely still an advantage for home teams.
 




Giraffe

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The issue with the stay up points just now is that I’m not sure home or away count for anything. We can expect away games to yield a higher return and home to be less than desired.

I thought the same, but this is true...

The evidence from the post-lockdown games suggests there is definitely still an advantage for home teams.
 


sparkie

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A defeat to West Brom would be a hammer blow and knock us a bit off kilter.

A victory and we gain a bit of momentum for a push up the table.

In feel-good optimism terms it is a 6-pointer.
 


Bold Seagull

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The issue with the stay up points just now is that I’m not sure home or away count for anything. We can expect away games to yield a higher return and home to be less than desired.

Home advantage is a lot more than crowds. Friend of mine (design lecturer) did a research paper on spatial awareness and how familiar visual cues around you help give you that slight marginal gain, whether your own orientation on the pitch, or knowing that the long diagonal ball you're supposed to hit you aim for a sign or object you see game after game at home. There is then of course the whole sports psychology around routine and repeating the same preparations time after time. This obviously is much more familiar at home. These all represent small gains that I think still lead to home advantage even without a home crowd.
 


knocky1

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Home advantage is a lot more than crowds. Friend of mine (design lecturer) did a research paper on spatial awareness and how familiar visual cues around you help give you that slight marginal gain, whether your own orientation on the pitch, or knowing that the long diagonal ball you're supposed to hit you aim for a sign or object you see game after game at home. There is then of course the whole sports psychology around routine and repeating the same preparations time after time. This obviously is much more familiar at home. These all represent small gains that I think still lead to home advantage even without a home crowd.

As evidenced by numerous expertly guided Palace Hoofs up to the top of their Stands on Sunday.
 






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