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tedebear

Legal Alien
NSC Patron
Jul 7, 2003
17,117
In my computer
Shizuoka Dolphin said:
On the flip side, it's actually considered RUDE to tip in Japan.

Brilliant. :)

Yes but they are a bit odd - I wasn't allowed to buy 4 noodle bowls - I had to buy 3 one day and come back and get 1 more the next day!! :lol:
 


pasty

A different kind of pasty
Jul 5, 2003
31,038
West, West, West Sussex
The Large One said:
If the 10% addition is on the bill,

That really really pisses me off. Adding a service charge to a bill by default is nothing more than daylight robbery. "Here is your bill Sir. Your dinner cost £80, but we are going to charge you £88 and hope you don't notice"
:angry:
 


BigGully

Well-known member
Sep 8, 2006
7,139
Service as we know it...the local restaurant....

Has absolutely nothing to do with pay or tipping, its about employing genuinely friendly helpful people.

These kind souls are always like this what ever they do, now the miserable old bag that I always get to serve me...is always a miserable old bag, she doesnt just become a frivilous, happy go lucky, life & soul kinda person with an extra couple of quid.
 


Nibble

New member
Jan 3, 2007
19,238
I always tip unless it has been exceptionaly rude/poor service. Why not?
 




BigGully

Well-known member
Sep 8, 2006
7,139
Nibble said:
I always tip unless it has been exceptionaly rude/poor service. Why not?

Maybe it might be the restaurant owners obligation to pay a reasobale wage.....and not the customers to subsidise their wage structure ..

???
 


Robot Chicken

Seriously?
Jul 5, 2003
13,154
Chicken World
The table laughs. The WAITRESS comes over to the table.
She has the check, and a pot of coffee.


WAITRESS
Can I get anybody more
coffee.


JOE
No, we're gonna be hittin it.
I'll take care of the check.



She hands the bill to him.

WAITRESS
Here ya go. Please pay at the
register, if you wouldn't mind.


JOE
Sure thing.


WAITRESS
You guys have a wonderful day.



They all mutter equivalents. She exits and Joe stands up.

JOE
I'll take care of this, you guys
leave the tip.
(to Mr. White)
And when I come back, I want my
book back.


MR. WHITE
Sorry, it's my book now.


JOE
Blonde, shoot this piece of shit,
will ya?



Mr. Blonde shoots Mr. White with his finger. Mr White
acts shot. Joe exits.

NICE GUY EDDIE
Okay, everybody cough up green for
the little lady.



Everybody whips out a buck, and throws it on the table.
Everybody, that is, except Mr. White.

NICE GUY EDDIE
C'mon, throw in a buck.


MR. WHITE
Uh-uh. I don't tip.


NICE GUY EDDIE
Whaddaya mean you don't tip?


MR. WHITE
I don't believe in it.


NICE GUY EDDIE
You don't believe in tipping?


MR. PINK
(laughing)
I love this kid, he's a madman,
this guy.


MR. BLONDE
Do you have any idea what these
ladies make? They make shit.


MR. WHITE
Don't give me that. She don't
make enough money, she can quit.



Everybody laughs.

NICE GUY EDDIE
I don't even know a Jew who'd have
the balls to say that. So let's
get this straight. You never ever
tip?


MR. WHITE
I don't tip because society says I
gotta. I tip when somebody
deserves a tip. When somebody
really puts forth an effort, they
deserve a little something extra.
But this tipping automatically,
that shit's for the birds. As far
as I'm concerned, they're just
doin their job.


MR. BLUE
Our girl was nice.


MR. WHITE
Our girl was okay. She didn't do
anything special.


MR. BLONDE
What's something special, take ya
in the kitchen and suck your dick?



They all laugh.

NICE GUY EDDIE
I'd go over twelve percent for
that.


MR. WRITE
Look, I ordered coffee. Now we've
been here a long fuckin time, and
she's only filled my cup three
times. When I order coffee, I
want it filled six times.


MR. BLONDE
What if she's too busy?


MR. WHITE
The words "too busy" shouldn't be
in a waitress's vocabulary.


NICE GUY EDDIE
Excuse me, Mr. White, but the last
thing you need is another cup of
coffee.



They all laugh.

MR. WHITE
These ladies aren't starvin to
death. They make minimum wage.
When I worked for minimum wage, I
wasn't lucky enough to have a job
that society deemed tipworthy.


NICE GUY EDDIE
Ahh, now we're getting down to it.
It's not just that he's a cheap
bastard--


MR. ORANGE
--It is that too--


NICE GUY EDDIE
--It is that too. But it's also
he couldn't get a waiter job. You
talk like a pissed off dishwasher:
"f*** those ****s and their
f***ing tips."


MR. BLONDE
So you don't care that they're
counting on your tip to live?



Mr. White rubs two of his fingers together.

MR. WHITE
Do you know what this is? It's
the world's smallest violin,
playing just for the waitresses.


MR. BLONDE
You don't have any idea what
you're talking about. These
people bust their ass. This
is a hard job.


MR. WHITE
So's working at McDonald's, but
you don't feel the need to tip
them. They're servin ya food, you
should tip em. But no, society
says tip these guys over here, but
not those guys over there. That's
bullshit.


MR. ORANGE
They work harder than the kids at
McDonald's.


MR. WHITE
Oh yeah, I don't see them cleaning
fryers.


MR. BROWN
These people are taxed on the tips
they make. When you stiff 'em,
you cost them money.


MR. BLONDE
Waitressing is the number one
occupation for female non-college
graduates in this country. It's
the one jab basically any woman
can get, and make a living on.
The reason is because of tips.


MR. WHITE
f*** all that.



They all laugh.

MR. WHITE
Hey, I'm very sorry that the
government taxes their tips.
That's f***ed up. But that ain't
my fault. it would appear that
waitresses are just one of the
many groups the government fucks
in the ass on a regular basis.
You show me a paper says the
government shouldn't do that, I'll
sign it. Put it to a vote, I'll
vote for it. But what I won't do
is play ball. And this non-
college bullshit you're telling
me, I got two words for that:
"Learn to fuckin type." Cause if
you're expecting me to help out
with the rent, you're in for a big
fuckin surprise.


MR. ORANGE
He's convinced me. Give me my
dollar back.



Everybody laughs. Joe's comes back to the table.

JOE
Okay ramblers, let's get to
rambling. Wait a minute, who
didn't throw in?


MR. ORANGE
Mr. White.


JOE
(to Mr. Orange)
Mr. White?
(to Mr. White)
Why?


MR. ORANGE
He don't tip.


JOE
(to Mr. Orange)
He don't tip?
(to Mr. White)
You don't tip? Why?


MR. ORANGE
He don't believe in it.


JOE
(to Mr. Orange)
He don't believe in it?
(to Mr. White)
You don't believe in it?


MR. ORANGE
Nope.


JOE
(to Mr. Orange)
Shut up!
(to Mr. White)
Cough up the buck, ya cheap
bastard, I paid for your goddamn
breakfast.


MR. WHITE
Because you paid for the
breakfast, I'm gonna tip.
Normally I wouldn't.


JOE
Whatever. Just throw in your
dollar, and let's move.
(to Mr. Blonde)
See what I'm dealing with here.
Infants. I'm fuckin dealin with
infants.



The eight men get up to leave. Mr. White's waist is in
the F.G. As he buttons his coat, for a second we see he's
carrying a gun. They exit Uncle Bob's Pancake House,
talking amongst themselves.
 


Cian

Well-known member
Jul 16, 2003
14,262
Dublin, Ireland
Minimum wage here is high enough. Will usually tip the taxi driver when drunk though. Unless he bitches about how little they get for a Dublin->Maynooth run since the changeover to the new rates scheme (Its about halfed, but fuckem, they used to rip us off), in which case they get teh meter amount and no more, even if it takes them five minutes to get my change :lolol:
 




Nibble

New member
Jan 3, 2007
19,238
BigGully said:
Maybe it might be the restaurant owners obligation to pay a reasobale wage.....and not the customers to subsidise their wage structure ..

???

Yes, you are right on the pay thing but the staff work incredibly late hours and have a crappy job as it is and if they can at least plaster on a fake smile and do their best then it is worth a couple of my hard earned pounds. But I do get your point, their slave driving bosses should stump up.
 


BigGully

Well-known member
Sep 8, 2006
7,139
Nibble said:
Yes, you are right on the pay thing but the staff work incredibly late hours and have a crappy job as it is and if they can at least plaster on a fake smile and do their best then it is worth a couple of my hard earned pounds. But I do get your point, their slave driving bosses should stump up.

Its only a crappy job if its not getting paid a fair wage...and of course bumping into me without a tip !!!:)
 


John Dorian

Glass Case of EMOTION
As a student and with the regular changes in the semester lectures, being a waiter, barman etc is probably the only job that you can possible hope to fit in around your studies.

As a barman/waiter, the wage I was able to get of £5 p/h was paltry and only worked to help pay my rent. I used to live off my tips however and whether my week consisted of a lot of tips or hardly any tips equalled how good the rest of my week was ie: going out, eating good food etc.

So that i earnt a lot of tips for the coming week, I always worked bloody hard to give a good service that I would expect when sitting down to a meal with my family and in return always recieved good tips. however, at both my last pubs, tips were shared out at the end of the nights. I soon learnt that many people didnt give as good a service as myself, and haveing learnt that started to pocket the tips at the table rather than stick them into the pot for the end of the night.

When it comes to giving tips, my missus always gives a couple of quid regardless of the service, but I only give the tip if I feel that it has been of a good standard as I would like to give.
 




Gully

Monkey in a seagull suit.
Apr 24, 2004
16,812
Way out west
OK, let me remember what my hours were like in the hotel (it was the summer of 84 so I will have to scratch the grey matter a little), I worked 5 days a week think it was usually Saturday to Wednesday.

On an average day I would work from 7.30 - 10.00, breakfast shift, then have a couple of hours break until lunch, which was 12.00 till about 2.30 or 3.00. I would then cycle home for a few hours off and return for the dinner shift which was 7.00 till 10.00 but often anything up to midnight, depending on how busy the restaurant was and how long it took us to clean the place and set up for breakfast. On the face of it we only worked something like an 8-10 hour day, but the work was knackering and the money wasn't brilliant.

In the summer we would have a wedding reception most Saturdays which meant working from 7.30 till maybe 1.00 AM the following morning, with a couple of short breaks for meals, that was probably the hardest I have worked in my whole life. From my experience, albeit a mercifully short one, I would never begrudge a waiter a tip if the service has been good...been there, tried it, worn the t-shirt, never again...too much like hard work!
 


BigGully

Well-known member
Sep 8, 2006
7,139
John Dorian said:
As a student and with the regular changes in the semester lectures, being a waiter, barman etc is probably the only job that you can possible hope to fit in around your studies.

As a barman/waiter, the wage I was able to get of £5 p/h was paltry and only worked to help pay my rent. I used to live off my tips however and whether my week consisted of a lot of tips or hardly any tips equalled how good the rest of my week was ie: going out, eating good food etc.

So that i earnt a lot of tips for the coming week, I always worked bloody hard to give a good service that I would expect when sitting down to a meal with my family and in return always recieved good tips. however, at both my last pubs, tips were shared out at the end of the nights. I soon learnt that many people didnt give as good a service as myself, and haveing learnt that started to pocket the tips at the table rather than stick them into the pot for the end of the night.

When it comes to giving tips, my missus always gives a couple of quid regardless of the service, but I only give the tip if I feel that it has been of a good standard as I would like to give.

Yeah good points......actually I am a tipper......sssshhhh

But as I said its down to personality, as who might be a good waiter or waitress, thats all I ask for a friendly and helpful face.
 


Simon Morgan

New member
Oct 30, 2004
6,065
Oxford
As a waiter, I don't take tips for granted. If I get them, I am obviously happy, but I don't go into work calculating how I can maximise my tips (then again, for my age, I do get a good wage). However, some people where I work do this and I think it's pretty disgusting to be honest. Maybe I'm just very naive, but I actually tend to give a shit about what the customers want, rather than seeing how much money I can get out of them. It's a big problem and needs rectifying IMO.
 






beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
36,023
i dont get it. why do we feel the need to tip in restaurants? do you tip in macdonalds? how about in the pub? or the shop? all on minimum wage or barely above. yet restaurants are somehow special. i dont get it.

i do tend to tip though as my missus once worked in a west end cafe ans it pretty much made up the wages. but with minimum wage is different now. btw, if you pay with credit/debit card dont put the tip on the card as the owner will take it :glare:
 


Questions

Habitual User
Oct 18, 2006
25,512
Worthing
Nibble said:
Yes, you are right on the pay thing but the staff work incredibly late hours and have a crappy job as it is and if they can at least plaster on a fake smile and do their best then it is worth a couple of my hard earned pounds. But I do get your point, their slave driving bosses should stump up.


Nibble for gods sake shut up you blithering idiot.
 


Scotty Mac

New member
Jul 13, 2003
24,405
bhaexpress said:
Try the US, it's manditory to leave 15%. Mind you usually the food is better and cheaper as is the service. However, woe betide anybody who doesn't leave the 15% no matter how bad the fare was.

same in canada - most people even tip someone for simply pouring them a drink. i wont bother unless the service has been explemary, or the waitress is particularly attractive
 




dougdeep

New member
May 9, 2004
37,732
SUNNY SEAFORD
Les Biehn said:
I tip. However when I worked in retail I never got a tip yet was on minimum wage.

There was no minimum wage a few years back, some staff were on less than £2 an hour, they needed tips to live.
 




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