[Football] Tinpot Albion - Massive Fail?

[BadFish]

I love the idea that the other Premier League teams would prefer to play Leeds and Wednesday rather than Brighton and Bournemouth.

I absolutely agree that they would because they would currently give them a far better chance of getting 6 points.

 

[maffew]

What’s that got to do with it?

The last World Cup final was played at CSKA Moscow’s stadium.

We just played them at chess. BHA NSChess is a big MASSIVE name on world football chess circuit. We beat Barca too and they are 400 strong

Anyway, as you were.

 

[Saunders]

They are a bigger club than us. They are more of a household name. They have had more success and their potential is greater than ours. They have more supporters (attendances are not the necessary factor). Most of their history has been top flight, most of ours are third tier.

More of a household name? No
They have had more success but then most have.
They arent even the best team in their city. We represent an entire county.

 

[Brightonfan1983]

Sure we have plastic fans but we also have a loyal fan base who have followed us through the darkest of times.

All this 'my club's bigger than yours' bores me to tears BUT you've reminded me of things El Pres said on his podcast about Liverpool, about how the big clubs especially cater for tourist tickets, how they have a business plan to exploit that and how much money they make out of them.

Not sure what the dictionary definition of 'plastic fan' is but at the end of the day, they're here to stay and the clubs like them!

 

[Shropshire Seagull]

There is a lot of bollocks talked about “ big club”

You can measure it in all sorts of ways.

Currently, the “ big club” label should only be measured by champions league entrance. Although is the Greek champions in the same “ big club”;as say Barcelona or Liverpool?

I would say that in the UK, it would be Liverpool, man united, Celtic, and that would really be it.

You could argue that Man City and Chelsea are possible to be added, and maybe Rangers.

For me this is why a cup run of any flavour is so important to our club. Just to remain in the top division with no hope of winning it , or hopefully finishing 1 place above the relegation zone ( which seems to be the ambition of some people) maybe financially fantastic, but I suppose our season’s highlights must be winning games against those clubs that we have regarded in the past as much “ bigger “ clubs than we are.

The Champions League measure fails when clubs like perennial Welsh league champions TNS are in it EVERY year.

You've not mentioned Arsenal either ..... don't think many would disagree with their "big-club" status

 

[Brovion]

When I started watching the Albion, we were in Division 1, and Wednesday in Division 2.

This is seared in my brain as how football is.

They will always be a lower league, smaller club to me because of this.

I think the league snapshot when anyone starts watching football has a *massive* effect on how someone perceives a club's status/'bigness'.

Spot on with your 'snapshot' analogy. I always intrinsically feel that Wednesday are 'bigger' than us as they were in 1966 when I first started watching Brighton. Indeed as they were 1st division and we were 3rd I thought they weren't so much bigger as completely out of sight, and any notion that we could catch or even surpass them was laughable. Ditto the likes of Leicester, Bolton, Coventry, Southampton, Fulham, Portsmouth, Palace, Burnley etc (as well as the obvious candidates like Leeds, Derby, Forest, etc). As far as I was concerned as a young lad we were a perennial 3rd division side and they all weren't.

Obviously things change. I still remember when we beat 'mighty' Blackpool 1-0 away in our first season in Division Two. (77/78. Maybank scored). I couldn't believe that little old Brighton had gone to Bloomfield Road, the home of legends such as Matthews, Mortensen and Armfield and won! The mere fact we were playing them in a league game was amazing, but to beat them, wow! (They did get relegated that season, but when we played them they were up near the top with us).

 

[Brovion]

When I started watching the Albion, we were in Division 1, and Wednesday in Division 2.

This is seared in my brain as how football is.

They will always be a lower league, smaller club to me because of this.

I think the league snapshot when anyone starts watching football has a *massive* effect on how someone perceives a club's status/'bigness'.

O/T Also the 'snapshot' applies to shirts. To me the 'true' Albion kit is solid blue shirts with solid white sleeves. Stripes are just a passing fad!

 

[Dave the OAP]

The Champions League measure fails when clubs like perennial Welsh league champions TNS are in it EVERY year.

You've not mentioned Arsenal either ..... don't think many would disagree with their "big-club" status

I think there is a few ...one could argue that arsenal/ Tottenham and both big clubs, certainly in Europe it is more difficult..in Germany you have Bayern, two in Spain, Barca and real, a few in Italy...juve, inter and ac, Roma possibly.

 

[drew]

Is this willy waving contest still dragging on?

Does it matter who is, was or maybe a 'big' club?

I for one started supporting the albion when we were in Division 3. I didn't start coming because I thought we could be a big club, were a big club or used to be a big club. Will I stop going because of the realisation we are unlikely to be as big as Liverpool? Of course not.

 

[Mellor 3 Ward 4]

Is this willy waving contest still dragging on?

Does it matter who is, was or maybe a 'big' club?

I for one started supporting the albion when we were in Division 3. I didn't start coming because I thought we could be a big club, were a big club or used to be a big club. Will I stop going because of the realisation we are unlikely to be as big as Liverpool? Of course not.

100% this.

Let Wednesday wallow broke in the Championship, while we enjoy the Premier league ride.

 

[GloryDays]

Who cares what they think? Just sour grapes after not being able to defend that Pocognoli cross however many years ago.

Personally I take great satisfaction that the FA cup tie evoked such emotion from them. Nice to see they haven’t forgotten. Sure, it would have been nice to go through but the greater success is avoiding a replay and injuries for us atm, plus I’m really happy for that young lad at CB they played. His interview post match made my day.

https://twitter.com/swfc/status/1213531792420065281?s=21

 

[Dick Knights Mumm]

Spot on with your 'snapshot' analogy. I always intrinsically feel that Wednesday are 'bigger' than us as they were in 1966 when I first started watching Brighton. Indeed as they were 1st division and we were 3rd I thought they weren't so much bigger as completely out of sight, and any notion that we could catch or even surpass them was laughable. Ditto the likes of Leicester, Bolton, Coventry, Southampton, Fulham, Portsmouth, Palace, Burnley etc (as well as the obvious candidates like Leeds, Derby, Forest, etc). As far as I was concerned as a young lad we were a perennial 3rd division side and they all weren't.

In Charlie Buchan's Football Annuals there were often photos of Wednesday players (Peter Swan was one I remember!) and never (certainly rarely) Albion players.

Also the 'snapshot' applies to shirts. To me the 'true' Albion kit is solid blue shirts with solid white sleeves. Stripes are just a passing fad!

Yep. Although we may be in a very small minority here.

 

[Albion Prem]

I confess that I would prefer watching the Albion in the top half of the Championship rather than scratching odd points to keep above the relegation zone in the Premiership, I want entertainment ahead of pure possession

 

[Worried Man Blues]

Who cares what they think? Just sour grapes after not being able to defend that Pocognoli cross however many years ago.

Personally I take great satisfaction that the FA cup tie evoked such emotion from them. Nice to see they haven’t forgotten. Sure, it would have been nice to go through but the greater success is avoiding a replay and injuries for us atm, plus I’m really happy for that young lad at CB they played. His interview post match made my day.

https://twitter.com/swfc/status/1213531792420065281?s=21

Thanks for that, great interview, good lad, hope he does well.

 

[Brovion]

I confess that I would prefer watching the Albion in the top half of the Championship rather than scratching odd points to keep above the relegation zone in the Premiership, I want entertainment ahead of pure possession

Weird choice of username then!