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Yorkie

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Jul 5, 2003
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dahn sarf
Btw just to add I agree with huddersfield seagull regarding Leon at Hudds and Sheff Wed.
I lived there and Ned was a Wednesday fan at that time.
 




fatboy

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Jul 5, 2003
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Yorkie said:
Have you read the paper?
Less than 24 hours earlier Jake's best mate was killed in a car crash.
Jake could have been excused for pulling out and not playing at all.

That is no excuse.

If he wasn't up to playing, as a professional he should have pulled out.
 


Shropshire Seagull

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Nov 5, 2004
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KinkyGoebels said:
Where you there? can you please tell me how badly Jake played and how uncreative the team looked.

Kinky, what I'm trying to get across to you is that this whole debate is about a player's attitude/reaction to being substituted. It is NOT about how the team played with or without other individuals in the team.

Please focus on the issue ... SUBSTITUTION & ATTITIDE

Yes, by the way, I was ....
 


Kinky Gerbil

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Jul 16, 2003
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Shropshire Seagull said:
Kinky, what I'm trying to get across to you is that this whole debate is about a player's attitude/reaction to being substituted. It is NOT about how the team played with or without other individuals in the team.

Please focus on the issue ... SUBSTITUTION & ATTITIDE

Yes, by the way, I was ....

And?
 


Schrödinger's Toad

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Jan 21, 2004
11,957
Yorkie said:
Have you read the paper?
Less than 24 hours earlier Jake's best mate was killed in a car crash.
Jake could have been excused for pulling out and not playing at all.

I hate to sound unsympathetic, but if he wasn't fit to play, he shouldn't have done so. He's only a fringe player, so it's not like he's hard to replace.
 




plymouth nige

plymouth nige
Oct 21, 2003
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plymouth
A lot of you know absolutely eff all about team building - I would'nt mind betting that there are a lot of players, if not all of them, room right behind the manager on this. You can't have one rule for the team and one for Mr. 'it's my ball so I've got to play' little erk Knight
wcnige
 


Bwian

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Jul 14, 2003
15,898
plymouth nige said:
A lot of you know absolutely eff all about team building - I would'nt mind betting that there are a lot of players, if not all of them, room right behind the manager on this. You can't have one rule for the team and one for Mr. 'it's my ball so I've got to play' little erk Knight
wcnige

On the lash tonight Nige?:lolol:
 






Shropshire Seagull

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KinkyGoebels said:

Oh come on Kinky, this is getting tedious. I'll say it one more time.

Compare the reaction of Jake being subbed on Saturday with that of Leon being subbed last Tuesday.

Now answer the question: (focus now - ears wide open)

Which one showed the attitude and reaction that was the more appropriate of a professional footballer?

Jake or Leon, just name the name, no waffle about better player or team balance or creativity, name the one you thought showed the attitude befitting a professional footballer. Again, Jake or Leon?
 


Bwian

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Jul 14, 2003
15,898
Do you really expect an answer to that?
 






Tom Hark Preston Park

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Jul 6, 2003
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Leon's work rate contributes a massive amount to the team's overall effort, plus his dying-swan act every time he's tackled has all but gone. He's been doing what's been asked of him. It's hardly Leon's fault that the club seem unable to secure the services of the kind of non-trolley target-man that every other club at every other level seems to be able to get hold of. CKR might well be one for the future, but he's not one for this season.
 


Tom Hark said:
Leon's work rate contributes a massive amount to the team's overall effort, plus his dying-swan act every time he's tackled has all but gone. He's been doing what's been asked of him. It's hardly Leon's fault that the club seem unable to secure the services of the kind of non-trolley target-man that every other club at every other level seems to be able to get hold of. CKR might well be one for the future, but he's not one for this season.

No one disputes Leon has made great strides and has earnt his place up front this year, and fully deserved the honour of the captain's armband at one point. But, alas, this is about as far from the point as you get in figuring out why he has not done the decent thing and made peace with McGhee.

But let's be honest, he will in the next few days, we all know it, it just still takes Leon a bit longer than your average pro for the penny to drop.
 


Tom Hark Preston Park

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Jul 6, 2003
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London Irish said:
But, alas, this is about as far from the point as you get in figuring out why he has not done the decent thing and made peace with McGhee.

Well observed. If truth be told, due to restricted online access, I'm none too sure why they've fallen out in the first place. Too many threads, too little time (big cheers if you could point me in the direction of the definitive post that sums it up). My fault for sure. So that's my contribution stuffed then. I would say tho, that the manager will always have the last word. So Knight's going to have to bite the bullet at some point, or ship out.
 




Yorkie

Sussex born and bred
Jul 5, 2003
32,367
dahn sarf
Tom Hark said:
Well observed. If truth be told, due to restricted online access, I'm none too sure why they've fallen out in the first place. Too many threads, too little time (big cheers if you could point me in the direction of the definitive post that sums it up). My fault for sure. So that's my contribution stuffed then. I would say tho, that the manager will always have the last word. So Knight's going to have to bite the bullet at some point, or ship out.

Somewhere in the previous 6 pages you can find the reason that MM took him off in the first place,
There was an injury being treated and MM was shouting instructions from the dugout. CKR was paying attention but Leon turned his back on MM and ignored him. MM decided to sub him and Leon then threw his strop.
 


Tom Hark Preston Park

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Jul 6, 2003
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Yorkie said:
Somewhere in the previous 6 pages you can find the reason that MM took him off in the first place,
There was an injury being treated and MM was shouting instructions from the dugout. CKR was paying attention but Leon turned his back on MM and ignored him. MM decided to sub him and Leon then threw his strop.

Ah, right. Cheers Yorkie.
 


caz99

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Jun 2, 2004
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Yorkie said:
Have you read the paper?
Less than 24 hours earlier Jake's best mate was killed in a car crash.
Jake could have been excused for pulling out and not playing at all.

Same with Adam Virgo last christmas wasnt it when his father died in terrible circumstances. I dont recall it affecting his ability on the field. He acted like a true professional.
 


Shropshire Seagull

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Nov 5, 2004
8,790
Telford
Shropshire Seagull said:
Oh come on Kinky, this is getting tedious. I'll say it one more time.

Compare the reaction of Jake being subbed on Saturday with that of Leon being subbed last Tuesday.

Now answer the question: (focus now - ears wide open)

Which one showed the attitude and reaction that was the more appropriate of a professional footballer?

Jake or Leon, just name the name, no waffle about better player or team balance or creativity, name the one you thought showed the attitude befitting a professional footballer. Again, Jake or Leon?

:bounce:
Kinky, still waithing for you to answer this simple question ....
 






London Irish said:
this is about as far from the point as you get in figuring out why he has not done the decent thing and made peace with McGhee.

But let's be honest, he will in the next few days, we all know it, it just still takes Leon a bit longer than your average pro for the penny to drop.

:)
 


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