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[Drinking] Tim Martin takes a beating









happypig

Staring at the rude boys
May 23, 2009
8,172
Eastbourne
Call me a pisshead, scumbag and a pisshead if you like,

I would never be so rude (well, I might be, but not to someone who's only shortcoming is drinking in 'spoons)

Nb. I have seen a lot of snobbery about low price firms on here. E.g. Wetherspoons, Sports Direct or Macdonalds.... get a life !

I don't eat meat, haven't for 30+ years, but if I did I'd draw the line at minced up eyelids and aresholes served up in a roll made mostly of preservatives.
 


Yes Chef

Well-known member
Apr 11, 2016
1,908
In the kitchen
Call me a pisshead, scumbag and a pisshead if you like, but when it is safe again I will want to be back to my local ‘spoons. Admittedly I don’t go at late nights and no doubt they vary in clientele. However I love a ‘spoons breakfast which is excellent value . My local is/ was a good place for a quiet afternoon visit and a drink .

Tim Martin is a strong character, which is why the media love him. Who cares ? The beer is alright.

Nb. I have seen a lot of snobbery about low price firms on here. E.g. Wetherspoons, Sports Direct or Macdonalds.... get a life !


It's not snobbery though, his treatment of staff at the start of the pandemic was awful. At a moment when people were worried about many things, not least of all financial security, he washed his hands and said go and stack shelves in a supermarket. He could have said to his staff 'I've got your back' but he didn't, because that requires real leadership and not prioritising the bottom line.

Local breweries report that he is a nightmare to deal with, and they make no money on their beer in his pub, and effectively use it as a type of advertising.

There's other issues as well, but it is lazy to suggest that it's only snobbery that people don't like Wetherspoons.
 


LamieRobertson

Not awoke
Feb 3, 2008
48,424
SHOREHAM BY SEA
It's not snobbery though, his treatment of staff at the start of the pandemic was awful. At a moment when people were worried about many things, not least of all financial security, he washed his hands and said go and stack shelves in a supermarket. He could have said to his staff 'I've got your back' but he didn't, because that requires real leadership and not prioritising the bottom line.

Local breweries report that he is a nightmare to deal with, and they make no money on their beer in his pub, and effectively use it as a type of advertising.

There's other issues as well, but it is lazy to suggest that it's only snobbery that people don't like Wetherspoons.

Some of the posts seem to come over that way...even if unintentionally...imho

The important debate should be over the future of the whole of the ‘hospitality’ industry and its supply line...millions of jobs rely upon it
 






Mellor 3 Ward 4

Well-known member
Jul 27, 2004
10,241
saaf of the water
F**k me, there are some beer snobs on here.

Not everyone can afford £6.50/£7.00 for a pint of some stupidly named microbrewery craft ipa.

You can dislike Martin for whatever reason you like, but some on here are knocking the concept of buy in bulk and sell it cheap. I guess you all shop at Waitrose and have never been in an Aldi/Lidl.
 


Aug 13, 2020
1,482
Darlington
This got me to thinking about how many Wetherspoons I've been in. Over the last ten years, (basically as a student and immediately after), I make it a total of 37. Those are pretty evenly distributed around the country, albeit I've managed to never go in any in Sussex.
In that time nobody has attempted to start a fight with me or anybody I've been with. Although given the same can be said of all the pubs I've been in I'm not sure that says much about Wetherspoons in particular. I wanted to start a fight with some teenagers in the one in Bingham who were throwing chips around but resisted the temptation.
 




zefarelly

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 7, 2003
22,787
Sussex, by the sea
I would never be so rude (well, I might be, but not to someone who's only shortcoming is drinking in 'spoons)



I don't eat meat, haven't for 30+ years, but if I did I'd draw the line at minced up eyelids and aresholes served up in a roll made mostly of preservatives.

I think you're coonfusing Godlstone Burgers with McDonalds. :eek:

I do eat meat and draw lines there too . . . .The issue with McDonalds is not the purity of their beef, or much of their ingredients but the manner in which they're farmed.

well reared lips and arses in 70's hotdogs are probably better than modern McDonalds all things considered.
 


Yes Chef

Well-known member
Apr 11, 2016
1,908
In the kitchen
F**k me, there are some beer snobs on here.

Not everyone can afford £6.50/£7.00 for a pint of some stupidly named microbrewery craft ipa.

You can dislike Martin for whatever reason you like, but some on here are knocking the concept of buy in bulk and sell it cheap. I guess you all shop at Waitrose and have never been in an Aldi/Lidl.


There are more posts on this thread complaining about snobbery than posts that actually contain snobbery.
 


zefarelly

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Jul 7, 2003
22,787
Sussex, by the sea
F**k me, there are some beer snobs on here.

Not everyone can afford £6.50/£7.00 for a pint of some stupidly named microbrewery craft ipa.

You can dislike Martin for whatever reason you like, but some on here are knocking the concept of buy in bulk and sell it cheap. I guess you all shop at Waitrose and have never been in an Aldi/Lidl.

You called :lolol::laugh:

Witherspoons tactic is more about killing the opposition than offering you value. they don't give a **** about you, its all about sales and profit, and a nice property portfolio

my local is privately owned and run and offers special beardy 'stupidly named' craft mega juices . . . at half the price you suggest, putting it squarely in the bargain basement bracket.

The big difference is the owner is not out to make a massive profit for himself and certainly not a load of tub thumping greedy shareholders.
 






Official Old Man

Uckfield Seagull
Aug 27, 2011
9,106
Brighton
I don't dislike Tim, far from it, anyone who sells beer at £2.50 a pint gets my vote. I could have started this thread using anyone who treats there staff and suppliers badly and comes on the radio. Step forward Ryan Air! Although I have no knowledge of how Michael O'Leary treats his staff, only his customers.
It was the way Tim became the almighty Tim saying how safe pubs are and that no one has caught Covid in his pubs that annoyed me. Pubs need a few more months before they can reopen at which point, with any luck, it will be safe to go out and party.
 


Thunder Bolt

Silly old bat
F**k me, there are some beer snobs on here.

Not everyone can afford £6.50/£7.00 for a pint of some stupidly named microbrewery craft ipa.

You can dislike Martin for whatever reason you like, but some on here are knocking the concept of buy in bulk and sell it cheap. I guess you all shop at Waitrose and have never been in an Aldi/Lidl.

I go in all three shops.
 




Leekbrookgull

Well-known member
Jul 14, 2005
16,385
Leek
I don't drink in Wetherspoons, partly because Martin is an unsufferable arse but mostly because his pubs are full of pissheads, scumbags and cheapskates.
I'd rather go out once a week to a "proper" local than to a converted abbatoir

Wouldn't myself have put quite that way but you a point that i agree with. We have one in Leek and went once and never again,as you say. :clap2:
 


Tom Hark Preston Park

Will Post For Cash
Jul 6, 2003
72,348
What an evil man that Tim is eh? Pricing beer n food like they should be priced, while all the while providing public toilets for all and a nice place to sit down and have a nice cup of tea for those on coach parties. What's not to like?
 




JBizzle

Well-known member
Apr 18, 2010
6,232
Seaford
In terms of Wetherspoons as a pub, I have no specific objection to what they do or sell and I've had more than a few pints in in more than a few of their establishments over the years (although not recently as a) I don't live near any and b) I prefer smaller establishments on account of liking a quieter pint these days). If people enjoy drinking there, so be it. What I do object to is Tim Martin's odious opinions on treatment of his employees.

His views on whether this will ruin the industry are not even remotely about "the industry" or "the employees", they're about him personally being potentially ****ed.
 




DavidinSouthampton

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Jan 3, 2012
17,355
What an evil man that Tim is eh? Pricing beer n food like they should be priced, while all the while providing public toilets for all and a nice place to sit down and have a nice cup of tea for those on coach parties. What's not to like?

I would query the "nice place to sit down" bit. It's the sticking to the Carpet that gets me.

But at least he is not as big a hypocrite as some other Brexiteers:
James Dyson, who campaigns for Brexit then moves everything to Singapore,
or Jim Ratcliffe, the multi-billionaire chairman of INEOS and his plans to build a replacement for the no-longer produced Land Rover Defender. He was going to build them in Bridgend, South Wales, where they have recently closed a Ford Engine Plant. He has reneged on that idea, thereby wasting lots of Government/Local Authority money which has been spent on it, and has now bought a defunct BMW plant(?) in France (again ?) ....... because - you guessed it - of the export advantages of being within the EU.

Edit - its Hambach, near the French/German border. - https://www.theguardian.com/busines...british-heir-to-land-rover-defender-in-france


Seem to me to be prime examples of Do as I say, not as I do. This household will never buy a Dyson product again....... partly because we think they are overrated anyway, but mostly because of his hypocrisy.
 


Hastings gull

Well-known member
Nov 23, 2013
4,652
Johnson is a remainer, always has been, he just waited to see which way the crowd was running, stabbed May in the back, sacked the cabinet and filled it with nodding, useless and incompetant dogs.
But he did not bet on Covid and he can't deal with bad news or decision making so we have ended up with the biggest idiot in history in charge during a health crisis whose dithering has cost thousands of unnecessary deaths.
But we was warned, but all the mugs fell for it.

Talking of incompetance . . But if only you had been in government, then all those millions of mugs would not have been taken in, as we would have had your wisdom to guide us.
 


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