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Ticket priority for big games.



Of course regular home attendees put money into the club. But STH holders offer the club £500+ 14 months before some of the games are played, Even the August tickets are effectively part of a six month interest free loan. Not to mention the risk of the club going belly up and losing the whole £500.

That's why a big drop in STH will cost the club dear next close season. It will also give the club the headache of trying to budget not knowing whether next year's average gate will be 4000 or 7000.

That's also why the STH should be treated as priorities. Me, I stopped getting mine after I had to sit in Row B at the Millennium Stadium with a load of Man U fans. Spent the cash I saved on a nice dry holiday in Italy. I have managed to get tickets for every home game I could attend subsequently except one.
 




Springal

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Feb 12, 2005
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queens park pete said:

That's also why the STH should be treated as priorities. Me, I stopped getting mine after I had to sit in Row B at the Millennium Stadium with a load of Man U fans. Spent the cash I saved on a nice dry holiday in Italy. I have managed to get tickets for every home game I could attend subsequently except one.

oh great now STH should pick and choose their seats at away games :p
 


thedonkeycentrehalf

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Jul 7, 2003
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The idea of collecting caps won't work as the club can't be arsed with the admin involved. All the time we are in a lower division so few away games are all ticket that people don't need to buy through the club so makes this difficult. All away game admin is a burden to the club given the minimal money we get back for it.

One of the biggest issues is the number of AMS members who don't go to games regularly. The easy way to resolve this is to make AMS annually renewable for a small fee (£10 per year). This would filter out the fair weather fans who signed up for AMS many years ago and would also provide another income stream for the club. At the start of the season certain deadlines could be set so that people signing up for AMS after certain dates are not eligable for League Cup, FA Cup or play-off games (eg. 1st September, 1st December, 1st March).

It won't stop all of the STH v AMS arguments because for a 'big' away game there are always going to be issues with the number of tickets available. What it would do though is to thin the numbers of those who are eligible for tickets giving regular fans (both home and away) a better chance of getting tickets.
 


Citrus in Sheffield

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thedonkeycentrehalf said:
One of the biggest issues is the number of AMS members who don't go to games regularly. The easy way to resolve this is to make AMS annually renewable for a small fee (£10 per year). This would filter out the fair weather fans who signed up for AMS many years ago and would also provide another income stream for the club. At the start of the season certain deadlines could be set so that people signing up for AMS after certain dates are not eligable for League Cup, FA Cup or play-off games (eg. 1st September, 1st December, 1st March).

Seems to me like a very fair solution. I know people going to the West Ham game who have probably never been to Withdean, let alone any away league games. With this system, they probably wouldn't be going on Saturday.
 


British Bulldog

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Feb 6, 2006
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Beach Hut said:
Good question, I suppose the convenience of paying up front in one go and the savings.

Also when the crowds return not having to find four seats together every other week and the effort to keep booking things through the club.

Convenience is something that works for you but not me but it costs me in the long run. I've got to 8 games this season but between myself, little bulldog & his mates it's cost me best part of £200 so far for this season to see those games.

Booking things through the club is a rip off, Why the £2 booking fee just to send you a ticket? and if you dont want it sent and you pick it up at the ground you lose half your travel voucher anyway!
 




British Bulldog

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Citrus in Sheffield said:
Seems to me like a very fair solution. I know people going to the West Ham game who have probably never been to Withdean, let alone any away league games. With this system, they probably wouldn't be going on Saturday.

That I do agree with! I was very surprised when I paid my away membership fee that it was for life and not for just one season, Whoever thought that up got it wrong.
 


Beach Hut

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Jul 5, 2003
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British Bulldog said:
Convenience is something that works for you but not me but it costs me in the long run. I've got to 8 games this season but between myself, little bulldog & his mates it's cost me best part of £200 so far for this season to see those games.

Booking things through the club is a rip off, Why the £2 booking fee just to send you a ticket? and if you dont want it sent and you pick it up at the ground you lose half your travel voucher anyway!

Totally agree on the £2 business - complete rip off.
 


Giraffe

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Aug 8, 2005
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thedonkeycentrehalf said:
The idea of collecting caps won't work as the club can't be arsed with the admin involved. All the time we are in a lower division so few away games are all ticket that people don't need to buy through the club so makes this difficult. All away game admin is a burden to the club given the minimal money we get back for it.

One of the biggest issues is the number of AMS members who don't go to games regularly. The easy way to resolve this is to make AMS annually renewable for a small fee (£10 per year). This would filter out the fair weather fans who signed up for AMS many years ago and would also provide another income stream for the club. At the start of the season certain deadlines could be set so that people signing up for AMS after certain dates are not eligable for League Cup, FA Cup or play-off games (eg. 1st September, 1st December, 1st March).

It won't stop all of the STH v AMS arguments because for a 'big' away game there are always going to be issues with the number of tickets available. What it would do though is to thin the numbers of those who are eligible for tickets giving regular fans (both home and away) a better chance of getting tickets.

Wycombe have started a points system this season. They have asked all League Two teams allow them to distribute the tickets directly to fans. I think about two thirds have done so. In this way they have attempted to recognise some loyalty and regular away match attendees. They have at least tried, and have a smaller average gate than ourselves, and a lot less potential.
 




Beach Hut

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Giraffe said:
Wycombe have started a points system this season. They have asked all League Two teams allow them to distribute the tickets directly to fans. I think about two thirds have done so. In this way they have attempted to recognise some loyalty and regular away match attendees. They have at least tried, and have a smaller average gate than ourselves, and a lot less potential.

And you missed the main point - all STH had priority for the Charlton game :clap: :clap:
 


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British Bulldog said:
That I do agree with! I was very surprised when I paid my away membership fee that it was for life and not for just one season, Whoever thought that up got it wrong.

Yep agree with that. Certainly a chance of making some money missed. Even if it was just £5 a year it would have been helpful.
 


Giraffe

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Beach Hut said:
And you missed the main point - all STH had priority for the Charlton game :clap: :clap:
Thats right as I said on another thread.

The point is though, that by having a back up points system they could give full priority to STH's first, then those left could be given to fans that had actually attended away games that season not just a few from 15,000 who registered at some point in the dim and distant past.
 




British Bulldog

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Feb 6, 2006
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Beach Hut said:
Totally agree on the £2 business - complete rip off.

What is this £2 for? I can use my debit card to buy most things on the phone but the Albion are the only one's who charge me £2 to do it. They need to find a new post office to buy their stamps at me thinks.
 


Beach Hut

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Jul 5, 2003
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British Bulldog said:
What is this £2 for? I can use my debit card to buy most things on the phone but the Albion are the only one's who charge me £2 to do it. They need to find a new post office to buy their stamps at me thinks.

I suppose it is a subtle variation on the £4.95 per ticket type thing that Ticket Master do.

It is a complete rip off - I mean even adding a £1 to each ST price to post out is pathetic and they sent all three out individually as well.
 


British Bulldog

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Feb 6, 2006
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Giraffe said:
Yep agree with that. Certainly a chance of making some money missed. Even if it was just £5 a year it would have been helpful.

I fully expecetd it to be £10 per season and I would'nt have a problem with paying that, At least then the 50-50 split would be fair and nobody could complain.
 




clapham_gull

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Aug 20, 2003
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I agree in principle with Turkey and wrote to the club (before WestHamGate) with a similiar suggestion.

I think that people who GO TO GAMES should get priority.

There's a relatively simple way of recording pay on the gate away games to, if the other club agree to hand out individually numbered vouchers at the gate.

This will keep happening, because of the large floating support.

I've spoken to a few season ticket holders now (who also travel away regularly) who missed out and got their applications in early.
 




Beach Hut

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Jul 5, 2003
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Kenhead said:
What was the ratio of sth to allocated seats for that game?

No idea Ken but I think they said there were around 6K Wycombe
 


Ian Bairds Fist

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Nov 26, 2003
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northstandnorth said:
f*** SAKE HUT

give it up.grow up.shit happens.i have a 3 year ticket and i aint going either.

its the luck of the draw and ams members have just as much right to a ticket as i have

Why should he shut up? The Club have got their ticketing policy EMBARRASSINGLY wrong and until they admit that, i cant see this argument going away.
 




Kenhead

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Oct 1, 2003
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The reason why i asked was because once sth had been accounted for in that match it may of only take up 50% of wycombes allication, where as west ham about 75% would go on sth
 


Ian Bairds Fist

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Nov 26, 2003
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Beach Hut said:
What is done is done now, however there are a fair few with the same opinion as the truth dawns they did not get tickets.

I await my response from Mr Perry and the final proof of whether this is fair can be measured in Season Ticket renewals or lack of.

I can see the threads in mid-May now re: lack of renewals.

For those of you that think that people like Beach Hut simply 'moan' rather than be a tad concerned about the financial stability of the Club need to have a re-think. Pissing off your most loyal customers is the best way to minimise your income.
 


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