[Albion] Three month pay holiday on Season Tickets

[Springal]

However 3 months on and some may still be in the position where personal finances dictate that they cannot justify £60+ for their season ticket payments on the readjusted terms.

Will the club give supporters the option to cancel their 20/21 season tickets completely and release them to supporters on the waiting list?

If people genuinely think there could be a scenario in 3 months time where they cannot afford the season ticket it might be worth speaking to the club now and asking. Technically everyone has now entered a contract for 20/21 making them liable for the full cost. While taking civil action against a bunch of fans seems unlikely, I'm also sure given the club are forgoing a fair bit of revenue over the next few months they might appreciate some goodwill back the other way.

 

[Cadiz Seagull]

Plus players, managers and bosses will be ringing round over 70's to check they are coping.

A real community club

https://www.theargus.co.uk/sport/18331663.albions-players-join-ring-round-70s/

 

[blue-shifted]

Sorry but I'm getting quite titsy about people telling footballers what they should and shouldn't do with their wages.

The palace knob-end was saying all premier league footballers should take a 20% pay cut.
To my knowledge he made no reference of his own 20% pay cut.

As others have said, why the flip are footballers the people who should cure the world of all it's ills?
Whether it's racism, poverty, bullying and now pandemics it would seem footballers pay packets are some kind of cure all.

I suppose people are saying it, because if we can't get football back on for a while, as seems likely, the a significant number of clubs are going to go to the wall, which means that they will instead of getting 80% of their wages for the rest of the contract, they'll be getting 0%. So it's just sensible.

Also, you can't ignore that their employer, the institution which is at the centre of the community and has been for over a century will be the collateral damage... and for what? There won't be a single footballer in the top 2 divisions who's lives are going to be materially impacted by, say a 20% wage cut for a year. There may be some lower down the leagues who'll notice it, but even A 4th tier player will be on 10x what I'm on.

Should the players have been given the contracts they were given by the clubs? No, of course not, but we are where we are. Nobody saw this coming.

Of course all league footballers should be taking wage cuts. They are part of society as much as anyone else, and their income relies on the financial health of al overall structure, in the same way as the rest of our do. It's just a question of how much of a cut and how to agree it, and how to arrange it fairly.

 

[Stat Brother]

I suppose people are saying it, because if we can't get football back on for a while, as seems likely, the a significant number of clubs are going to go to the wall, which means that they will instead of getting 80% of their wages for the rest of the contract, they'll be getting 0%. So it's just sensible.

Also, you can't ignore that their employer, the institution which is at the centre of the community and has been for over a century will be the collateral damage... and for what? There won't be a single footballer in the top 2 divisions who's lives are going to be materially impacted by, say a 20% wage cut for a year. There may be some lower down the leagues who'll notice it, but even A 4th tier player will be on 10x what I'm on.

Should the players have been given the contracts they were given by the clubs? No, of course not, but we are where we are. Nobody saw this coming.

Of course all league footballers should be taking wage cuts. They are part of society as much as anyone else, and their income relies on the financial health of al overall structure, in the same way as the rest of our do. It's just a question of how much of a cut and how to agree it, and how to arrange it fairly.

Bollox, how the hell do you know all the footballers, in the top 2 tiers wouldn't notice a 20% pay cut for a year.

What about the players currently paying out over 20% of their wages to charitable concerns?

What about the club owners?
Why do they get to keep all their money?
What about you what sacrifices are you making, for the next 12 months, for the good of all?



Once again someone is being free and easy with someone else's wages, it's absolutely ridiculous.

 

[blue-shifted]

Bollox, how the hell do you know all the footballers, in the top 2 tiers wouldn't notice a 20% pay cut for a year.

What about the players currently paying out over 20% of their wages to charitable concerns?

What about the club owners?
Why do they get to keep all their money?
What about you what sacrifices are you making, for the next 12 months, for the good of all?



Once again someone is being free and easy with someone else's wages, it's absolutely ridiculous.

I'll answer that paragraph by paragraph

Point 1. Actually, I don't know. It's a guess ... based on the fact that they earn (some close to, many well over) millions of pounds a year and spending massive wedges of cash, with the casinos and Ferrari showrooms all closed isn't easy at the moment.
Point 2. Do any of them do this? There are a few who donate 1% Even if there are some, they do it because they can afford it and may have to stop temporarily, in order that their employer can keep employing them
Point 3. What about the club owners? Do you mean should they be paid? Well I suppose yes, because they'll still be doing their job, but I don't have a strong view on it. Maybe they should lose some % out of solidarity
Point 4. I'm luckily not making financial sacrifices at the moment because my employer is fairly sound. If it goes under, I'll be screwed.

The underlying difference we have on this is that you , (forgive me from paraphrasing, i'll try to do it fairly), are of the opinion that just because footballers are paid more than most people, this doesn't make the morality of having a pay cut enforced any different than if it were enforced on you or I. after all, they are likely to have greater outgoings and have been given their contracts in good faith. I disagree with this. In a crisis like this, those most able to absorb shocks must be the ones that do so. If we can stop dozens of clubs (in all sports) going to the wall, surely that has to be a greater priority over say a 50k per week player getting £40k per week for a year.

 

[dazzer6666]

I'll answer that paragraph by paragraph

Point 1. Actually, I don't know. It's a guess ... based on the fact that they earn (some close to, many well over) millions of pounds a year and spending massive wedges of cash, with the casinos and Ferrari showrooms all closed isn't easy at the moment.
Point 2. Do any of them do this? There are a few who donate 1% Even if there are some, they do it because they can afford it and may have to stop temporarily, in order that their employer can keep employing them
Point 3. What about the club owners? Do you mean should they be paid? Well I suppose yes, because they'll still be doing their job, but I don't have a strong view on it. Maybe they should lose some % out of solidarity
Point 4. I'm luckily not making financial sacrifices at the moment because my employer is fairly sound. If it goes under, I'll be screwed.

The underlying difference we have on this is that you , (forgive me from paraphrasing, i'll try to do it fairly), are of the opinion that just because footballers are paid more than most people, this doesn't make the morality of having a pay cut enforced any different than if it were enforced on you or I. after all, they are likely to have greater outgoings and have been given their contracts in good faith. I disagree with this. In a crisis like this, those most able to absorb shocks must be the ones that do so. If we can stop dozens of clubs (in all sports) going to the wall, surely that has to be a greater priority over say a 50k per week player getting £40k per week for a year.

Um, point 3 - I thought at the last known juncture our owner was being paid about minus £30m a year.........

Separately (sort of anyway) on what was, I think, intended to be a positively-intended thread about something good the club have done (to help fans, and were under no compulsion to do so, and that will take more money out of Tony’s personal pocket) gets infiltrated by a few posts from people looking to pick holes in it. It’s always the same.....it’s never good enough for some people.

Re the players........my firm I’m sure has a few people paid PL-level wages. I don’t think any have been asked, or are expected, to forgo any of their salary to help smaller firms (they are sure as hell going to pay for all this in taxes for next 30 years though)

Whenever anyone talks about ‘the club’ and it involves cost, Tony pays. We make a loss. He covers it.

 

[neilbard]

This is the club trying to be helpful in a time of great need and that should be applauded, if supporters can still afford to pay their DD then hopefully they will continue to do so.

The club, I am sure will make all right decisions regarding any reimbursements in terms of the Premier League being unable to conclude or commence any season in the foreseeable future.

 

[atomised]

This is the club trying to be helpful in a time of great need and that should be applauded, if supporters can still afford to pay their DD then hopefully they will continue to do so.

The club, I am sure will make all right decisions regarding any reimbursements in terms of the Premier League being unable to conclude or commence any season in the foreseeable future.

The press release already covers the possibility that this season will not complete and what will happen if that arises

 

[Munkfish]

Paying the same amount but in 9 instalments rather than 12.

Hate to sound underwhelmed, but it’s not that spectacular, is it?

It helps out for those not earing in this time, but agreed its not some spectacular offer. As you say it will just push monthly payments up.

 

[DJ NOBO]

Will season ticket holders get reimbursed if the final games of the season if the season gets cancelled?
Will more footballers be forced to take pay cuts if the season is cancelled and they don’t play/work?
These are the real questions.
I’m not a st holder anymore unfortunately, but I have massive sympathy for those who may have to pay for games that never happen, in the form of unadjusted season ticket costs. Football should have to suck that up, not working or retired fans.
FWIW, Im glad some st holders have welcomed this gesture by the club but really it is neither here nor there. Albion ST holders will still pay the same over the course of the year.
This is not an issue exclusive to the Albion. It looks like fans of all clubs are currently in line to pick up the tab for the uncertainty in football scheduling, not football clubs.
In other news I did think players phoning vulnerable people was a nice touch.

 

[Birdie Boy]

I can't really afford it now but I'm not going to stop, I will find a way. In the circumstances that I'm in, out of work, I don't want to defer the dd to August and then get a higher dd going forward. Due to this reason, I am out but thanks for the offer.

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[atomised]

Will season ticket holders get reimbursed if the final games of the season if the season gets cancelled?
Will more footballers be forced to take pay cuts if the season is cancelled and they don’t play/work?
These are the real questions.
I’m not a st holder anymore unfortunately, but I have massive sympathy for those who may have to pay for games that never happen, in the form of unadjusted season ticket costs. Football should have to suck that up, not working or retired fans.
FWIW, Im glad some st holders have welcomed this gesture by the club but really it is neither here nor there. Albion ST holders will still pay the same over the course of the year.
This is not an issue exclusive to the Albion. It looks like fans of all clubs are currently in line to pick up the tab for the uncertainty in football scheduling, not football clubs.
In other news I did think players phoning vulnerable people was a nice touch.

The answer to that first question is yes it's on the club website in the article about the payment holiday so therefore there is no need to feel sympathy for season ticket holders losing out if they cant see the games

 

[Beach Hut]

The club offer assistance and people start a dispute over this - be kind everyone

 

[DJ NOBO]

The answer to that first question is yes it's on the club website in the article about the payment holiday so therefore there is no need to feel sympathy for season ticket holders losing out if they cant see the games

My bad, that’s good to hear

 

[atomised]

The club offer assistance and people start a dispute over this - be kind everyone

I'm puzzled it appears a very well thought out gesture and the article covers all possibilities. I'm not sure as a club they could do more. The end of this season is an unknown but they have still advised in timely fashion what will happen

 

[Barham's tash]

Those that opt in, please be aware, for the remaining eight months, your direct debit will be a fair bit higher to pay off the balance. Hopefully this health crisis will be over by August.

Didn’t want to come across as ungrateful but this point isn’t abundantly clear and frankly anyone that thinks this will blow over by August for people’s jobs etc is the eternal optimist.

Sadly for me I think this scenario will be the death knell for my season ticket as I’d struggled to justify it up to this point.

Personal circumstances have meant I can’t go this season at all which the club have been great about but to continue paying for something I can’t even recoup some of the cost of through the ticket exchange in these uncertain times makes less and less sense.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

In other news I did think players phoning vulnerable people was a nice touch.

It's players and Tony Bloom, Paul Barber, Graham Potter, Bruno and Martin Perry.

As I'm one of those who will be called, any guesses as to who I might get?

My money is on Martin Perry. (ps I don't actually bet)

https://www.brightonandhovealbion.c...s-to-check-in-on-elderly-supporters-by-phone/

 

[Green Cross Code Man]

It's players and Tony Bloom, Paul Barber, Graham Potter, Bruno and Martin Perry.

As I'm one of those who will be called, any guesses as to who I might get?

My money is on Martin Perry. (ps I don't actually bet)

https://www.brightonandhovealbion.c...s-to-check-in-on-elderly-supporters-by-phone/

If it's Barber please ask nicely if we can have our flasks back!

 

[Bry Nylon]

It's players and Tony Bloom, Paul Barber, Graham Potter, Bruno and Martin Perry.

As I'm one of those who will be called, any guesses as to who I might get?

It'll be Shane Duffy. At 2 o'clock in the morning.

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

Wonder who'll get to call Glenn Murray?