Thomas Delaney

[severnside gull]

Did we start with three at the back against Chelsea (?) at home and it was less than successful so we reverted to a flat back four.

 

[Not Andy Naylor]

Did we start with three at the back against Chelsea (?) at home and it was less than successful so we reverted to a flat back four.

We went 2-0 down but that was more to do with individuals than the formation. The next hour was one of our best of the season, with Schelotto particularly impressive at right wing-back. Then further errors by Duffy and Suttner gifted Chelsea further goals but somehow it seemed to be the system that got the blame.

 

[Stat Brother]

We went 2-0 down but that was more to do with individuals than the formation. The next hour was one of our best of the season, with Schelotto particularly impressive at right wing-back. Then further errors by Duffy and Suttner gifted Chelsea further goals but somehow it seemed to be the system that got the blame.

The formation gets the blame because the formation (Schelotto aside) looked shaky.
That's not to say we'll never see it again, but if we do see 3 centre backs it'll be right through pre-season.

CH doesn't need much of an excuse to not rock the boat, which is why the team weren't allowed to play themselves into the new formation.

As much as we all love the 'commitment' by D&D, the bottom line is the team can't progress with so many last ditch tackles at one end and no goals up the other, so something has got to give.

 

[Saunders]

Did we start with three at the back against Chelsea (?) at home and it was less than successful so we reverted to a flat back four.

Yea we did we also played 2 centre backs vs Liverpool and remember how that ended. That shouldnt be the only reason not to change things. CH tried it because teams like Arsenal had success with it vs Chelsea.

You also imply it was the only reason why we lost...

 

[One Teddy Maybank]

We went 2-0 down but that was more to do with individuals than the formation. The next hour was one of our best of the season, with Schelotto particularly impressive at right wing-back. Then further errors by Duffy and Suttner gifted Chelsea further goals but somehow it seemed to be the system that got the blame.

Offensively it might have been, defensively it certainly was not, any time Dunk gets isolated on the left side, it simply isn’t working.

The gaps between the CBs were extreme for most of the game, and as you point out the player it suited most was Schelotto.

It’s an easy formation to break down and I hope we don’t use it again.


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[Mr H]

A back 3 formation requires players who are both mobile and technically proficient. I am not sure that Duffy, solid as he is in a back 4, falls into either of those categories. However, a back 3 of Balogun, Dunk and Goldson might work.

 

[dingodan]

A back 3 formation requires players who are both mobile and technically proficient. I am not sure that Duffy, solid as he is in a back 4, falls into either of those categories. However, a back 3 of Balogun, Dunk and Goldson might work.

Balogun, Dunk & Liam Moore?

 

[LamieRobertson]

....and Delaney.............

 

[ferring seagull]

No point in speculating on the basis of what we might / might not have in terms of personnel !

 

[Blue Valkyrie]

Will be gutted if Fulham now steam in for Delaney.

 

[Baldseagull]

The formation gets the blame because the formation (Schelotto aside) looked shaky.
That's not to say we'll never see it again, but if we do see 3 centre backs it'll be right through pre-season.

CH doesn't need much of an excuse to not rock the boat, which is why the team weren't allowed to play themselves into the new formation.

As much as we all love the 'commitment' by D&D, the bottom line is the team can't progress with so many last ditch tackles at one end and no goals up the other, so something has got to give.

I would like to see progress by being more attacking, but Burnley seem to have progressed without moving away from a defending lots, scoring little type of approach.

 

[Stat Brother]

I would like to see progress by being more attacking, but Burnley seem to have progressed without moving away from a defending lots, scoring little type of approach.

I think that's what we're going to be looking at, which is a bit of a shame but at least 'the' goal will be an enjoyable experience.

 

[lawros left foot]

If he sings for us, will he bring his donkey?

 

[Billy the Fish]

Offensively it might have been, defensively it certainly was not, any time Dunk gets isolated on the left side, it simply isn’t working.

The gaps between the CBs were extreme for most of the game, and as you point out the player it suited most was Schelotto.

It’s an easy formation to break down and I hope we don’t use it again.


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Totally agree with this. You can apportion blame to both the system and the individuals. The 3 centre backs did not know who should go to the ball and who should go with a runner, making it easy for Willian and hazard to find the gaps and play it round us.

 

[Pavilionaire]

Isn't Delaney simply an upgrade on Propper?

If you want to improve on 15th then one area you'd target would be more goal production from central midfield.

 

[Nixonator]

Isn't Delaney simply an upgrade on Propper?

If you want to improve on 15th then one area you'd target would be more goal production from central midfield.

We can't expect to be able to play Stephens Propper in almost every game again. We need a quality alternative. Horses for courses also, I would expect to have Delaney Stephens for the tougher games and Propper played more at home.

 

[Silverhatch]

Isn't Delaney simply an upgrade on Propper?

If you want to improve on 15th then one area you'd target would be more goal production from central midfield.

Both Propper and Stephens could score more goals from midfield if they could get further up the pitch

 

[Medwayseagull]

Both Propper and Stephens could score more goals from midfield if they could get further up the pitch

So could Mat Ryan.

 

[Barham's tash]

No offence to Kayal but a midfield trio of Pröpper, Stephens and Delaney is miles better than when we’ve deployed the former instead.

Sex wee good for a club of our stature in fact.


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[dingodan]

Plan A

X---Stephens---Delaney---X
------------Gross---------------
---------------X-------------------

Plan B

X---Stephens---Propper---X
------------Gross---------------
---------------X-------------------

Plan C

X---Stephens---Delaney---X
------------Propper---------------
---------------X-------------------

Plan D

X---Propper---Delaney---X
------------Gross---------------
---------------X-------------------