[Albion] This transfer period and RDZ

[rogersix]

Of the mutual termination?

semantics

 

[Silverhatch]

RDZ and the club got a bit carried away and overheated following 22/23 season.
23/24 with no Mac (expected) and unexpectedly sold Cac, created choppy waters
Waters never settled

 

[Guinness Boy]

I think Mason Greenwood had a real part to play in De Zerbi going. RDZ clearly lacks moral backbone and I can imagine Bloom and co being baffled by any suggestion of signing him. De Zerbi was calling MG every day and "treating him like a son" - the fact that Greenwood is even able to play football at all and is not in prison for a long time is a disgrace, and enablers like RDZ are nearly as bad. Really glad he's gone.

And you know this how?

Your post is potentially libellous so be careful.

 

[Han Solo]

And very selective seeing as we played 8 Europa League and 3 FA Cup games in the same period, which Hughton didn’t. I suspect if you created a spreadsheet you’d get a similar stat for periods of Potterball, but to do so would be selective and incredibly sad.

The stat "points over a large number of games" may be selective, but its frequently used to determine the outcomes of various competitions, and is likely to be of some relevence to some people involved in the football world, including Tony.

 

[Insel affe]

Comments in the media, being inflexible in tactics until very late in the season and appearing to lose interest when he didn’t get the players he wanted in the January window might have had something to do with it

That and his absence match day due an urgent “dentist appointment“

sorry I never bought that line, from that point on he was not bothered about Brighton and it showed.

 

[Guinness Boy]

Yup, another reason why he was sacked. And his end of season backpedaling when he realised no good club wanted him wasn't enough. No mercy from Tony. Sacked the lad and still got at least some of the money we wanted. Good business as usual.

Perhaps ask yourself why Chelsea paid off Potter but Marseille had to pay Brighton.

 

[chaileyjem]

was due to TB not being prepared to sink many millions into new signings, yet as soon as the market opened we went in guns blazing ( by our standards at least)

Anyway in lots of ways our transfer activity isn't really that different to last summer . Certainly in terms of players bought and money spent .
We spent a lot last summer.

Minteh looks similar to Pedro, Verbruggen not far off Wieffer and then a few other promising young - quite expensive players (Gomez, Dalcouye, Duberry) - similar to Osman, Mazilu, Baleba from 23/24.

And you'd expect the club to still find a Milner type figure and a couple of others (in terms of ££ spent), perhaps a loan - to match the outlay on Fati, Dahoud, Igor.
But of course more in line with the club model than experienced Bundesliga / Seria A players with little sell on - and/or at coach insistence.

thankfully There seems to be no big exit this summer in line with (Caicedo, Cucurella, White) - in the last three seasons... hopefully.

Also the key reason that RDZ was shown the door , apart from transfer policy and poor form, was the same reason Gus went . Criticising your boss in public.

 

[Flounce]

Perhaps ask yourself why Chelsea paid off Potter but Marseille had to pay Brighton.

Because Chelsea don’t think things through as well as Albion. No knee jerks from us, both CH and RDZ were dead men walking long before they departed and were not binned mid or late season.

 

[Han Solo]

Perhaps ask yourself why Chelsea paid off Potter but Marseille had to pay Brighton.

I don't have to. The answer is obvious: Brighton could get money for RDZ (cheaper and eager to work) and Chelsea couldn't get money for Potter (expensive and eager for a sabbatical).

Roberto was never going to coach Brighton this season, because Tony Bloom didn't want him to.
So there were essentially two options: sacking him and paying the rest of his wages, or "mutually terminating" him and waiting/hoping for a club to pay the firesale price we put on him. Sacking him and losing millions of pounds or "mutual termination" and receiving millions of pounds - easy choice.

 

[Guinness Boy]

Because Chelsea don’t think things through as well as Albion. No knee jerks from us, both CH and RDZ were dead men walking long before they departed and were not binned mid or late season.

I don't have to. The answer is obvious: Brighton could get money for RDZ (cheaper and eager to work) and Chelsea couldn't get money for Potter (expensive and eager for a sabbatical).

Roberto was never going to coach Brighton this season, because Tony Bloom didn't want him to.
So there were essentially two options: sacking him and paying the rest of his wages, or "mutually terminating" him and waiting/hoping for a club to pay the firesale price we put on him. Sacking him and losing millions of pounds or "mutual termination" and receiving millions of pounds - easy choice.

Incorrect.

There’s a legal precedent. You can’t receive compensation when someone else employs someone you’ve terminated.

 

[Flounce]

Incorrect.

There’s a legal precedent. You can’t receive compensation when someone else employs someone you’ve terminated.

Hence my comment that Albion thinks things through before acting…mutual suited both parties with RDZ. He was out anyway if he hadn’t agreed to it being mutual imo, pride may also have played a big part with RDZ too imo. TB is a hard nosed clever businessman

 

[Guinness Boy]

Hence my comment that Albion thinks things through before acting…mutual suited both parties with RDZ. He was out anyway if he hadn’t agreed to it being mutual imo, pride may also have played a big part with RDZ too imo. TB is a hard nosed clever businessman

So you now agree it was mutual

 

[chaileyjem]

RDZ and the club got a bit carried away and overheated following 22/23 season.
23/24 with no Mac (expected) and unexpectedly sold Cac, created choppy waters
Waters never settled

Not sure - apart from the massive fee we ended up securing - that anyone was surprised that Caicedo was sold last summer. We did well to hang on to him for the 2nd half of 22/23. Seemed inevitable he'd exit.
But agreed he was the biggest loss (and the injuries) of 23/24. With Baleba, Gross, Gilmour, Hinshelwood not quite able to fill the gap.

 

[Han Solo]

Incorrect.

There’s a legal precedent. You can’t receive compensation when someone else employs someone you’ve terminated.

Which is why the club went with another way to sack him than to terminate his contract. We've all agreed that technically/juridically, Roberto wasn't sacked - just like most managers aren't.

 

[Flounce]

So you now agree it was mutual

Never said it wasn’t just that he would have been sacked if he hadn’t agreed to mutual. RDZ saves face, TB saves/makes money

 

[junior]

Most likely it's simply that his team underperformed last season, and we're at times quite crap, whilst conceding a shed loads of goals.

 

[Guinness Boy]

Also the key reason that RDZ was shown the door , apart from transfer policy and poor form, was the same reason Gus went . Criticising your boss in public.

Sorry, but for someone who is usually so factually correct and has corrected me (rightly) in the past this is a bit lazy.

Poyet was PROPERLY sacked under employment law. RDZ was given a lap of honour and we made money out of his next gig.

I totally agree that criticising TB publicly contributed massively to him leaving, and that his time was up. But to insinuate both were shown the door in the same manner is disingenuous

 

[Flounce]

Sorry, but for someone who is usually so factually correct and has corrected me (rightly) in the past this is a bit lazy.

Poyet was PROPERLY sacked under employment law. RDZ was given a lap of honour and we made money out of his next gig.

I totally agree that criticising TB publicly contributed massively to him leaving, and that his time was up. But to insinuate both were shown the door in the same manner is disingenuous

Maybe TB learnt from the fallout shitfest on Poyet when deciding RDZ was going to be shown the door?

 

[Guinness Boy]

Maybe TB learnt from the fallout shitfest on Poyet when deciding RDZ was going to be shown the door?

Or maybe RDZ didn’t break his employment contract.

 

[rogersix]

Or maybe RDZ didn’t break his employment contract.

he was relieved of his responsibilties, he got the bullet, the old heave
-ho, why do you care?