[Brighton] This Is Why We Can't Have Nice Things

[Nobby Cybergoat]

This has been going on at Patcham Peace Garden for years. There’s some sick little blighters out there being encouraged by the very people who make the rules. The sooner Johnson and his cohorts get out or are thrown out the better and we can get some people in who have morals, are honest and will set good examples.

But again, i doubt the perpetrators, would have the self awareness (because you don't when you're that age) to identify they are doing it because dislike of a particular political leader. They might more be able to identify a general feeling of abandonment by the generation above.

One think I think we will see more of which will increase the already wide schism between generations is climate despair. Once more, if you asked people who've engaged in antisocial behaviour they might not regard themselves as environmental people, but the feeling of your future being taken from you, by a greedy, selfish and ignorant two generations above and that they care nothing for your interests must be so powerful. Why should I play by your rules? Is what I would be asking.

 

[Brovion]

Thus it ever was.

Agreed. There is a bit of hand-wringing going on here as if this is a recent phenomena brought on by the Tories, climate change, Inflation, Corbyn, etc etc, but like you say, 'twas ever thus. Indeed when I was an obnoxious teenage scrote in the early 1970s I did something similar. I'm obviously not proud of it and I wish I hadn't done it, but I was just showing off and being a ****.

 

[portlock seagull]

That's right, shit on your own doorstep because that will put things right...

Absolutely, when we lose and I’m angry I immediately go out and smash up a load of trees! Our local woodland has practically been DEFORESTED given our recent form.

Potter OUT!

 

[Eeyore]

I stuck a memorial bench in Queen's Park for my Mum a number of years back. Wasn't long before the paint artists got to that.

 

[zefarelly]

Absolutely, when we lose and I’m angry I immediately go out and smash up a load of trees! Our local woodland has practically been DEFORESTED given our recent form.

Potter OUT!

I'm more of a slash n burn man myself.

 

[portlock seagull]

Yes. People are angry. I don't in anyway think it likely that the people who carried this out were politically engaged enough that their anger was triggered by lockdown breaches in Downing St. But 10 years of government policy that strips wealth from the young and gives it to the old, as they are more electorally important, is never not going to have an effect.

All this stuff is about inequality at the end of the day isn't it. Inequality of education, housing, opportunity. The end result is that swathes will feel as though they have no stake in society. But hey ho, more people to demonise. People will get less angry with further cuts in services that way

There’s an awful lot of presumption in your post. I’d wager just as likely that the scrote who did it was a wealthy privileged background and did so just because they can. Morons are classless, in every sense.

 

[portlock seagull]

I'm more of a slash n burn man myself.

 

[portlock seagull]

I stuck a memorial bench in Queen's Park for my Mum a number of years back. Wasn't long before the paint artists got to that.

I’m so sorry to hear this, it’s why I’ve not done similarly for my loved ones. It would be too traumatic, I would want to beat the living crap out of whoever did this.

 

[DavidinSouthampton]

There’s an awful lot of presumption in your post. I’d wager just as likely that the scrote who did it was a wealthy privileged background and did so just because they can. Morons are classless, in every sense.

You're quite right. Years ago when I was at Oxford (sorry, but grammar school boy here) my college had a celebration dinner for Trinity Sunday (Trinity College). Afterwards around the back of the beer cellar there was one bloke standing on top of the boundary wall with the next door college. Someone standing down below was throwing up to him empty beer bottles, which he was then trying to lob trhough the neighbouring college's stained glass windows in the chapel. The bloke at the bottom was a former head boy of Winchester College and the bloke on the wall had been to Rugby School and his surname was the name of an exclusive Merchant Bank.

The next door college was Balliol - Boris Johnson's college - and my college was where Jacob Rees-Mogg later studied....... although this happened while the two of them were probably still in nappies.

 

[Titanic]

I'm more of a slash n burn man myself.

You ought to get down the docs for some antibiotics.

 

[wellquickwoody]

Agreed. There is a bit of hand-wringing going on here as if this is a recent phenomena brought on by the Tories, climate change, Inflation, Corbyn, etc etc, but like you say, 'twas ever thus. Indeed when I was an obnoxious teenage scrote in the early 1970s I did something similar. I'm obviously not proud of it and I wish I hadn't done it, but I was just showing off and being a ****.

Thank you for adding just a little down to earth reality. I was thinking of doing the same but was not sure if to risk the condescending, moral indignation from the NSC knitting club. I would imagine those that did both of these acts were probably teenagers, and that they had no overwhelming reason, nor a moral justification, they just did it.

I just remembered kicking over a litter bin in Wesrern Road, Brighton when I was 13 or 14 years old. I was neither protesting against Maggie or trying to draw attention to any kind of humanitarian scandal. I was just being a dick trying to show off to my mates. The showing off failed when 100 yards up the street a kindly pair of coppers pulled alongside in their patrol car and invited me in for a chat, and then escorted me back to the bin to put back into its rightful position with all the rubbish put back inside.

I also recall breaking multiple panes of glass in horticultural cold frames up on the allotments in Tenantry Down Road. Just because it was fun.

I look back on these instances and cringe at myself. What a cock, what a prat. I gained zero from either experience, and just lived to regret them if only in my own mind. Why did it happen? I wanted to impress my mates, wanted to be a rebel. I did not have the imagination or background to become a cool rebel (musician perhaps or similar), nor did I have any great moral compass to go campaign for a cause, I was just vying with others for a place in the pecking order of the group. Sadly a natural instinct expressed in a completely anti social way.

Move forward forty odd years and I like others see the futility in vandalism, although I see it less here then in the UK. Can it ever be stopped? Probably not. But it can be reduced by giving young people more of a sense of purpose, by helping them to invest in the society around them. If Josh helped to plant a tree on one weekend, he ain’t gonna be too pleased to see his mate Zak breaking it down the next one. Other than that, as Brovian says, ‘‘twas ever thus’.

 

[DavidRyder]

On remembrance Sunday, we passed a permanent board with details of a young boy who died there in the 2nd World War. There was a man there, a descendent of the boy's sister, in tears as some tosser had done 'tags' all over it. Luckily, the stuff they used wasn't permanent, so myself and my wife scraped it all off for him. Ended up with lovely fluorescent finger nails.

I just don't understand why they do these things. Zero respect for property, zero respect for the dead.

 

[Weststander]

On a serious note, violence is on the rise, people are angry. This is largely due to hardship. When we are ruled by people out of touch and clearly don't follow their own rules, you can't be surprised when chaos hits the streets. Far worse things to come then a few plants being smashed I'm afraid people.

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The Police put it down to widespread, increased use of cocaine combined with alcohol (and this was before the pandemic/petrol & home fuel price rises).

Dickheads automatically become a ‘hard man or woman’ with that combo.

 

[jakarta]

On remembrance Sunday, we passed a permanent board with details of a young boy who died there in the 2nd World War. There was a man there, a descendent of the boy's sister, in tears as some tosser had done 'tags' all over it. Luckily, the stuff they used wasn't permanent, so myself and my wife scraped it all off for him. Ended up with lovely fluorescent finger nails.

I just don't understand why they do these things. Zero respect for property, zero respect for the dead.

Zero respect for anything - their minds must be in constant turmoil so you should feel sorry for them.

Sadly I would probably (even now) revert to pissed off front row player mode if I saw this happening and have a free and frank discussion with them...

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Maybe in BN3, out here in civilised RH20 it isn't...

http://www.storringtoninbloom.co.uk/

Nor in Faversham.

Mind you we were the first town in UK to pilot town centre CCTV. There has been no vandalism graffiti or assaults in the twon centre in 25 years.

There is a solution, once the fuggers are caught, of course. Same solution as the one for football hooligans.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04clpd7h0b0&t=17s

 

[Mr Putdown]

Nor in Faversham.

Even Faversham has anti social scroats.

https://localrags.co.uk/2022/03/31/arson-attack-at-childrens-play-area-in-faversham/

 

[vegster]

On a serious note, violence is on the rise, people are angry. This is largely due to hardship. When we are ruled by people out of touch and clearly don't follow their own rules, you can't be surprised when chaos hits the streets. Far worse things to come then a few plants being smashed I'm afraid people.

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Yes, you are pretty much right. " Society " as we used to know it has been systematically dismantled over the last 15 years...cuts in public services across education, policing, the judicary, social services combined with the rise of the gig economy and destruction of working rights have done this...add the right wing press scapegoating refugees, benefit " scroungers " and you have a subtle but inevitable decline. People are angry, many don't have a chance and every year more get dragged in to poverty and despair that they may never get out of.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Even Faversham has anti social scroats.

https://localrags.co.uk/2022/03/31/arson-attack-at-childrens-play-area-in-faversham/

You'll never take me alive!

 

[Justice]

In the past few days...

Flower planters smashed in London Road

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Cherry saplings snapped in Preston Park

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What kind of feral twunt DOES that?

What gives?

I’t probably seemed funny to some youngsters pissed out their head at 2am. Then we all grow up and scorn upon the same things loads of us did in our younger days. The circle of life.

 

[Sirnormangall]

You’d hope that cctv will nab them but the thin blue line will have other priorities like nabbing people like Johnson who also doesn’t give a sh*t. It hasn’t always been this rife. What a world we live in.

My local petrol garage tells me that since prices have increased they’ve experienced an increase in people filling up and driving off without paying. They report to the police, offer cctv footage and licence plate details, but police don’t want to know.