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[Brighton] This Is Why We Can't Have Nice Things



GT49er

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Feb 1, 2009
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Yes, you are pretty much right. " Society " as we used to know it has been systematically dismantled over the last 15 years...cuts in public services across education, policing, the judicary, social services combined with the rise of the gig economy and destruction of working rights have done this...add the right wing press scapegoating refugees, benefit " scroungers " and you have a subtle but inevitable decline. People are angry, many don't have a chance and every year more get dragged in to poverty and despair that they may never get out of.
Longer than 15 years. Thatcher's 'There's no such thing as society' mantra has a lot to answer for.
 




dazzer6666

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Mar 27, 2013
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Went over to my local lake (which is on the edge of a nature reserve) tonight to help with some maintenance work with the fishing club. Got there to see 25 or so feral, gobby teenagers chucking stuff in (there was already a load of large branches, bottles and other rubbish floating on the surface) and hurling a large rock to try to break the lock to our storage shed. Fences had been broken/knocked down. I didn’t confront them, but walked through on the path, took my phone out of my pocket (was going to take some pictures) and as I did so one of the kids shouted ‘are you going to call the police mister ?’…….I said ‘yes, I am’, they cleared off within a couple of minutes.

***ts.
 
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vegster

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Longer than 15 years. Thatcher's 'There's no such thing as society' mantra has a lot to answer for.

True, but, it has accelerated in the last 15.
 


herecomesaregular

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Oct 27, 2008
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My local petrol garage tells me that since prices have increased they’ve experienced an increase in people filling up and driving off without paying. They report to the police, offer cctv footage and licence plate details, but police don’t want to know.

This is the problem imo. Those doing such things as the tree damage know that they will get away with it. And if you confront them they say "what are you going to do about it mate?" and then I am at a loss. The police don't care and all that is left is facing aggro yourself (with concerns re coke and alcohol mix) or losing your shit and getting aggy and then facing police prosecution yourself.
 














Peacehaven Wild Kids

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When I was growing up in Moulsecoombe in the 70s we got up to much worse than what’s been posted on this thread. Probably just out of boredom or the pressure from other members of the pack we used to go around with, we then started going to The Goldstone and used to racial abuse black players, I’ve done so much as a 12 year old I’m ashamed of but you can’t turn back time. To claim this is something new is a case of rose tinted spectacles from an era when “you could leave your front door unlocked” (could you ****!)
 




portlock seagull

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My local petrol garage tells me that since prices have increased they’ve experienced an increase in people filling up and driving off without paying. They report to the police, offer cctv footage and licence plate details, but police don’t want to know.

Free petrol? Thanks for the tip! ;)
 




portlock seagull

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When I was growing up in Moulsecoombe in the 70s we got up to much worse than what’s been posted on this thread. Probably just out of boredom or the pressure from other members of the pack we used to go around with, we then started going to The Goldstone and used to racial abuse black players, I’ve done so much as a 12 year old I’m ashamed of but you can’t turn back time. To claim this is something new is a case of rose tinted spectacles from an era when “you could leave your front door unlocked” (could you ****!)

Maybe Mouslescombe was ‘the first to go’ but undeniably things have got a lot worse generally everywhere and it’s not a case of rose tints. The scale of, how communities have dissolved etc. We’re far from reaching rock bottom, but I think we’ve lost sight of the top equally.
 


PeterT

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Apr 21, 2017
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Hove
Didn’t happen in BN3 when I lived there (up till 2017), it is Hove you realise. Now BN1/BN2, that’s a different matter……..

Seeing where you live now in Melbourne, it reminded me of when I was there a ‘few’ years ago on a working visa. I was getting the train into the city from Montmorency where I had relatives and was amazed that everyone was standing. Nothing unusual in that except for the fact that all the seats were empty. When I asked an innocent question as to why, apparently the.yobs weren’t satisfied with tagging the outside and used to break in the train carriages at night and piss all over the seats - so if you were ‘lucky’ enough to grab one of those seats there was a fair chance you might be sitting in something you might not have chosen. At the time the trains there were run by Connex, so I’m surprised that wasn’t something they exported to here when they ran the services in Sussex! Or maybe they did ……
 


wellquickwoody

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Aug 10, 2007
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Seeing where you live now in Melbourne, it reminded me of when I was there a ‘few’ years ago on a working visa. I was getting the train into the city from Montmorency where I had relatives and was amazed that everyone was standing. Nothing unusual in that except for the fact that all the seats were empty. When I asked an innocent question as to why, apparently the.yobs weren’t satisfied with tagging the outside and used to break in the train carriages at night and piss all over the seats - so if you were ‘lucky’ enough to grab one of those seats there was a fair chance you might be sitting in something you might not have chosen. At the time the trains there were run by Connex, so I’m surprised that wasn’t something they exported to here when they ran the services in Sussex! Or maybe they did ……

Wow! Never heard of that before, hope fully things have changed.

These days there is a heavy but reassuring presence of PCSOs (or equivalent) all across the train system around Melbourne. After 6pm my local station is part of three of four local stations that share two of these guys through till the early hours. One of the more troublesome stations about 15k away probably has 10+ officers based there on a Saturday night. I’ve not seen any problems but they must be there for a reason.
 




Harry Wilson's tackle

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Oct 8, 2003
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When I was growing up in Moulsecoombe in the 70s we got up to much worse than what’s been posted on this thread. Probably just out of boredom or the pressure from other members of the pack we used to go around with, we then started going to The Goldstone and used to racial abuse black players, I’ve done so much as a 12 year old I’m ashamed of but you can’t turn back time. To claim this is something new is a case of rose tinted spectacles from an era when “you could leave your front door unlocked” (could you ****!)

Not just Moulscoomb. I'm saying nothing, but you're not wrong. Ahem.

Moving swiftly on to generalizations, if you go out into the countryside today you will find forests of bluebells and primroses. I even stumbled across a bank of thousands of daffodils at Lorenden (this picture is old and there has been a massive proliferation since but you get the picture https://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/4399104). When I was a kid in the 60s people would drive out of Brighton and raze the wildflowes to the ground, digging up primroses. The difference between then and now suggests to me that all this talk of things getting worse is nonsense, and when some little **** does smash a tree (someone did this here about 8 years ago) you note it and remember it. I would venture that things are better now.

They should still all have their goolies cut off, though.
 




sydney

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Jul 11, 2003
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town full of eejits
Not just Moulscoomb. I'm saying nothing, but you're not wrong. Ahem.

Moving swiftly on to generalizations, if you go out into the countryside today you will find forests of bluebells and primroses. I even stumbled across a bank of thousands of daffodils at Lorenden (this picture is old and there has been a massive proliferation since but you get the picture https://www.geograph.org.uk/photo/4399104). When I was a kid in the 60s people would drive out of Brighton and raze the wildflowes to the ground, digging up primroses. The difference between then and now suggests to me that all this talk of things getting worse is nonsense, and when some little **** does smash a tree (someone did this here about 8 years ago) you note it and remember it. I would venture that things are better now.

They should still all have their goolies cut off, though.

come on H , that is hardly a proliferation now is it , i'll raise you bluebell hollow in the horsham area ....astounding and the flowering ginger in the lake also at Horsham.
 






Harry Wilson's tackle

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Oct 8, 2003
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come on H , that is hardly a proliferation now is it , i'll raise you bluebell hollow in the horsham area ....astounding and the flowering ginger in the lake also at Horsham.

I did say the web pic doesn't do it justice. I'll see what I have of my own....

Edit here you go from last week:

Lorenden.JPG
 
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Razzoo

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Sep 11, 2011
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N. Yorkshire
The recently completed memorial to the Manchester Arena victims was vandalised. They have arrested the twunt . Some people just make you despair for humanity.
 


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