[Misc] This is bigger than anything isn’t it ?

[Dick Swiveller]

Is this thread the equivalent of the UK news? 1 million people are estimated to have starved to death in 1984. Between 500000 and 1 million people were massacred in Rwanda. But they are Johnny foreigners so are a footnote.

 

[dangull]

On the 10 July, 80 years ago the Battle of Britain started. Lasted 3 months, 3 weeks. 14,000 civilians dead, 4000 pilots & crew.

Compared to the Eastern front those figures are quite small.

 

[Bold Seagull]

Compared to the Eastern front those figures are quite small.

Yes of course, depending on how long this virus goes on for, I was thinking more comparative scale of deaths and time, for the UK.

 

[el punal]

Mrs Brown's Boys D'Movie...?

OMG!!

Please! Have they not yet found a vaccine for this?

 

[Poojah]

Is this thread the equivalent of the UK news? 1 million people are estimated to have starved to death in 1984. Between 500000 and 1 million people were massacred in Rwanda. But they are Johnny foreigners so are a footnote.

228,000 people were killed in a single day by the Boxing Day tsunami in 2004. The difference there was that most people on the planet were able to crack on with their lives the day after.

This will not be the saddest or most tragic event in human history (although I do fear for places like India and Africa). But in terms of something adversely affecting the lives of so many, it has to be up there somewhere.

 

[Blue3]

That penalty kick

 

[Lower West Stander]

My nurse partner is very concerned we are losing perspective on this and obsessing with it to the point of ignoring all other diseases and illnesses that are killing people.

What happens if someone has a heart attack and there is nowhere for them to go? How are dementia patients going to be cared for if the majority of medical staff are pulled on to covid19 wards?

This is certainly big and I’m not trivialising it but it’s not the only illness which is killing people.


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[Harry Wilson's tackle]

I think it's the " Unknown Knowns " that is the worst part, where and when does it end and how many do we lose on the way?

You mean the unknown unknowns, you twit

It has the potential to be bigger than anything, because it's effects may be bigger than anything.

It is global, we have instant global communication (so we can all see it for what it is, and when it is what it is - in the past the truth moved slowly to people and it was alterable - people still deny the Holocaust, FFS).

Also we are so soft and vulnerable now owing to the social attitude and acceptability changes that mean we are ready to be changed as we see how vulnerable we really are.

The Black Death did not effect much change because the world was populated by miserable peasants whose lives were shit and whose salvation lay only in the glory of god - resurrection in jesus christ - not likely to exert any pressure on the living.

I am in the twighlight of my life, but I find myself surprisingly optimistic for all the young buggers out there - this may be a disruptive event that heralds real change. Good luck to you. Be strong. And learn from this.

 

[Norman Potting]

You mean the unknown unknowns, you twit

It has the potential to be bigger than anything, because it's effects may be bigger than anything.

It is global, we have instant global communication (so we can all see it for what it is, and when it is what it is - in the past the truth moved slowly to people and it was alterable - people still deny the Holocaust, FFS).

Also we are so soft and vulnerable now owing to the social attitude and acceptability changes that mean we are ready to be changed as we see how vulnerable we really are.

The Black Death did not effect much change because the world was populated by miserable peasants whose lives were shit and whose salvation lay only in the glory of god - resurrection in jesus christ - not likely to exert any pressure on the living.

I am in the twighlight of my life, but I find myself surprisingly optimistic for all the young buggers out there - this may be a disruptive event that heralds real change. Good luck to you. Be strong. And learn from this.

Wise words HWT.

 

[The Spanish]

You mean the unknown unknowns, you twit

It has the potential to be bigger than anything, because it's effects may be bigger than anything.

It is global, we have instant global communication (so we can all see it for what it is, and when it is what it is - in the past the truth moved slowly to people and it was alterable - people still deny the Holocaust, FFS).

Also we are so soft and vulnerable now owing to the social attitude and acceptability changes that mean we are ready to be changed as we see how vulnerable we really are.

The Black Death did not effect much change because the world was populated by miserable peasants whose lives were shit and whose salvation lay only in the glory of god - resurrection in jesus christ - not likely to exert any pressure on the living.

I am in the twighlight of my life, but I find myself surprisingly optimistic for all the young buggers out there - this may be a disruptive event that heralds real change. Good luck to you. Be strong. And learn from this.

It’s generally agreed that the Black Death led to massive social change in Europe

 

[southstandandy]

Expecting to hear the extremist views of Katie Hopkins anytime soon...

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

It’s generally agreed that the Black Death led to massive social change in Europe

Good. But I think this may be bigger.

Um....the fact I can't recall any change enacted after the plague, and you don't mention any, suggests that it wasn't all that. We still have rats, bold as brass down at Faversham Creek. But I'm intrigued now and will have to google it....

Hang on, in confab now with Mrs T.....she's googling it....

Here we go:

"The predominantly Christian population blamed the Jews – Europe’s largest minority group at the time – for the terrible disease. They believed that the Jews, bent on world domination, were secretly poisoning the wells of Christian towns and cities. Thousands of innocent Jews, who had also suffered from the plague, were slaughtered in dozens of European communities."

And:

"After so many people died, serfs were free to move to other estates that provided better conditions and receive top pay for their work. Landowners, desperate for their labor, often provided free tools, housing, seed and farmland . The worker farmed all he could and paid only the rent."

No. Tell you what , no. This will have more substantive (in a wider sense|) effects than a bit of an upsurge in racial scapegoating and a modest relaxation on slavery arrangements, I reckon.