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These travel vouchers are a bit of a RIP OFF aren't they ?



Easy 10

Brain dead MUG SHEEP
Jul 5, 2003
62,424
Location Location
OK, individually £1 per match is very reasonable.

However, I think its a bit of a con that you have to commit to buying a WHOLE book of 30 vouchers for the season, and in particular that they've gone and made them match-specific, so you can't even carry any unused ones over to the following season.

I can certainly see me using the P&R on most evening games, as I leave work in Haywards Heath and can just drive down the A23 and park in Mill Hill. But most Saturdays I could well be using other methods to get to the stadium.

I'm not ALWAYS going to be using the trains or P&R. Some days I'll be jumping on a minibus from my local. Some days I might be getting a lift as one of our party has a parking space. Some days I might be getting dropped off. It'll vary.

But regardless, I've got to lash out £60 for me and my lad for a book of vouchers I might only use half of, probably even less if the minibus from the local pans out. Come the end of the season, I'm going to have a stack of unused vouchers which will be worthless.

I have no objection to buying a couple of books of travel vouchers, but they should remove the 'match specific' aspect of these travel vouchers. Whats the point of it, other than ripping us off ?
 




Gullywog

Blackbird
Sep 12, 2008
297
simple answer: don't buy them, see if you're better off paying ad hoc for transport. then complain come the end of the season that you have spent more than £30 on public transport.
 




Notters

Well-known member
Oct 20, 2003
24,891
Guiseley
OK, individually £1 per match is very reasonable.

However, I think its a bit of a con that you have to commit to buying a WHOLE book of 30 vouchers for the season, and in particular that they've gone and made them match-specific, so you can't even carry any unused ones over to the following season.

I can certainly see me using the P&R on most evening games, as I leave work in Haywards Heath and can just drive down the A23 and park in Mill Hill. But most Saturdays I could well be using other methods to get to the stadium.

I'm not ALWAYS going to be using the trains or P&R. Some days I'll be jumping on a minibus from my local. Some days I might be getting a lift as one of our party has a parking space. Some days I might be getting dropped off. It'll vary.

But regardless, I've got to lash out £60 for me and my lad for a book of vouchers I might only use half of, probably even less if the minibus from the local pans out. Come the end of the season, I'm going to have a stack of unused vouchers which will be worthless.

I have no objection to buying a couple of books of travel vouchers, but they should remove the 'match specific' aspect of these travel vouchers. Whats the point of it, other than ripping us off ?

This hasn't been 100% confirmed yet has it? It really doesn't help matters for those of us that want to walk half of the time.

Though not as much of a rip off for me as Withdean tickets where I've walked to 90% of games in the last 12 years.
 






empire

Well-known member
Dec 1, 2003
11,729
dreamland
think its brill,i will use on sats on the train from lancing(,cost me a fiver last night for me and my boy),and midweek i will use on the coach from empire club(lancing),which will knock of 3 quid of the 8 quid charge.
 


empire

Well-known member
Dec 1, 2003
11,729
dreamland
do think 8quid for ocasional user on the coaches for a child is steep
 


Ninja Elephant

Doctor Elephant
Feb 16, 2009
18,855
Everyones situation is different, for you they might seem a rip off because you won't be getting the full value of them but for me, I think the £30 is very reasonable considering I'll be using the bus more often than not. I see what you're saying, Easy, and I agree they shouldn't be match specific but if you look at it from the club's perspective, they don't want to make a system so easy to abuse. I think it's a good idea on the whole, it just doesn't cater too well for your situation.
 




Easy 10

Brain dead MUG SHEEP
Jul 5, 2003
62,424
Location Location
simple answer: don't buy them, see if you're better off paying ad hoc for transport. then complain come the end of the season that you have spent more than £30 on public transport.

The main trouble is the uncertainty. I really have no idea at this stage what my usual travel arrangements are going to be, so committing £60 for a couple of books of travel vouchers that I don't really know yet how much I'll use seems pretty steep.

But I WILL have to buy them, because at some point (evenings particularly), I'll be looking to use the P&R, something I cannot do unless I've spent out on a book of vouchers.
 




Easy 10

Brain dead MUG SHEEP
Jul 5, 2003
62,424
Location Location
Everyones situation is different, for you they might seem a rip off because you won't be getting the full value of them but for me, I think the £30 is very reasonable considering I'll be using the bus more often than not. I see what you're saying, Easy, and I agree they shouldn't be match specific but if you look at it from the club's perspective, they don't want to make a system so easy to abuse. I think it's a good idea on the whole, it just doesn't cater too well for your situation.

If you know you'll nearly always be using the trains and/or P&R then yes, they are good value.

But how could the travel vouchers be abused by making them non-match specific ? Maybe I'm missing something, but I don't see what difference it would make just selling a book of 30 vouchers for £30, and using them for whatever match you need them for.
 






Mendoza

NSC's Most Stalked
I havent seen the vouchers or how do they work?

Say if I wanted to get the train there and back and paid for the train ticket using the voucher, but then realised the train queues are huge, so opt for the bus back into town. Do I still have to pay £2 for the bus back or is the voucher valid to cover that cost too?
 






JJ McClure

Go Jags
Jul 7, 2003
11,108
Hassocks
Don't see them as a rip off at all. The majority of the stadium is filled with season tickets holders who will go to the majority of games. So its easier for the club and the fans to sell them like this.
 


MattBackHome

Well-known member
Jul 7, 2003
11,875
OK, individually £1 per match is very reasonable.

However, I think its a bit of a con that you have to commit to buying a WHOLE book of 30 vouchers for the season, and in particular that they've gone and made them match-specific, so you can't even carry any unused ones over to the following season.

I can certainly see me using the P&R on most evening games, as I leave work in Haywards Heath and can just drive down the A23 and park in Mill Hill. But most Saturdays I could well be using other methods to get to the stadium.

I'm not ALWAYS going to be using the trains or P&R. Some days I'll be jumping on a minibus from my local. Some days I might be getting a lift as one of our party has a parking space. Some days I might be getting dropped off. It'll vary.

But regardless, I've got to lash out £60 for me and my lad for a book of vouchers I might only use half of, probably even less if the minibus from the local pans out. Come the end of the season, I'm going to have a stack of unused vouchers which will be worthless.

I have no objection to buying a couple of books of travel vouchers, but they should remove the 'match specific' aspect of these travel vouchers. Whats the point of it, other than ripping us off ?

If Joe Bloggs working on the platform at Brighton Station is being faced with wave after wave of thousands of voucher-wielding Falmer bound Albionites, I think it will be pretty easy to get past him with a voucher for another game. I'm not sure he'll be looking all that closely. A bit sneaky, like, but you could gamble on one voucher book between two.

Having said that, and knowing how state of the art everything is, there's probably a brand new automated platform guard resembling ED-209, who just remotely scans you brainwaves as you walk past to determine if you've got a valid ticket or not. Suck it up and buy your vouchers.

You have 20 seconds to comply...

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clippedgull

Hotdogs, extra onions
Aug 11, 2003
20,789
Near Ducks, Geese, and Seagulls
Don't see them as a rip off at all. The majority of the stadium is filled with season tickets holders who will go to the majority of games. So its easier for the club and the fans to sell them like this.

This. Of course it's not going to be convenient for everybody to buy a book of match specific tickets, but it benefits the majority I would wager. At least people have a choice from now on.
 


Notters

Well-known member
Oct 20, 2003
24,891
Guiseley
Don't see them as a rip off at all. The majority of the stadium is filled with season tickets holders who will go to the majority of games. So its easier for the club and the fans to sell them like this.

But all of those who live in Brighton and Hove (excepting the elderley and disabled) can and probably should walk/cycle some of the time.
 




Brovion

In my defence, I was left unsupervised.
NSC Patron
Jul 6, 2003
19,867
OK, individually £1 per match is very reasonable.

However, I think its a bit of a con that you have to commit to buying a WHOLE book of 30 vouchers for the season, and in particular that they've gone and made them match-specific, so you can't even carry any unused ones over to the following season.

I can certainly see me using the P&R on most evening games, as I leave work in Haywards Heath and can just drive down the A23 and park in Mill Hill. But most Saturdays I could well be using other methods to get to the stadium.

I'm not ALWAYS going to be using the trains or P&R. Some days I'll be jumping on a minibus from my local. Some days I might be getting a lift as one of our party has a parking space. Some days I might be getting dropped off. It'll vary.

But regardless, I've got to lash out £60 for me and my lad for a book of vouchers I might only use half of, probably even less if the minibus from the local pans out. Come the end of the season, I'm going to have a stack of unused vouchers which will be worthless.

I have no objection to buying a couple of books of travel vouchers, but they should remove the 'match specific' aspect of these travel vouchers. Whats the point of it, other than ripping us off ?
But you could argue that the travel vouchers have always been 'match specific'. And at Withdean you couldn't carry over the vouchers either. You couldn't say to the ticket office "Actually I didn't use my travel vouchers last game so don't sell me any this time." If you walked (as I did) you were effectively left with a huge pile of useless travel vouchers at the end of the season. At least now you have a choice whether you want to buy them or not.

So sorry, I disagree, I don't think they're a rip-off at all. Even if you only use half of them I bet you'll be better off than if you were paying the full fare each time for you and your lad. (Like we had to do at the Goldstone).
 


rool

Well-known member
Jul 10, 2003
6,031
If they are not person specific maybe there is an opportunity to trade them on here if you know in advance you won't be using them for certain matches.

Edited to say, I probably won't go to many evening games but would be interested in buying bundles of Saturday vouchers.
 


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