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The worst decision ever taken by a ref at Withdean.











DJ Leon

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The difference being that if Leeds were attacking, a stoppage would have been justified because the area of the pitch in which Whing was crouching would have been right in the path of their attack.

In the case of what happened, Whing was not seriously injured, and was right at the other end of the pitch from the passage of play (therefore could not have been said to be causing an obstruction of interference from that point of view).

I can see no reason why the pasage of play could not have been allowed to reach it's natural conclusion (whatever that might have been) before Whing was attended to. If he'd been unconscious and flat on his back, then fair enough, but he wasn't and so the stoppage at that point was ridiculous.

If the referee were THAT concerned for Whing's immediate health, then he had opportunity enough to stop the game before we'd built an attack to that degree, but he didn't.

He was just outside the centre circle and so wouldn't have obstructed them if they were in a similar position. Sorry but you can't deny that it's an outrage because it didn't suit us, if had of suited us no-one would have mentioned it.

Here's one for you - why don't we blame Whing? He wasn't seriously injured and he must have known what he was doing was going to stop play. If he had have been facing play he could have seen that now was not the time and he could have then gone down when the ball went out. Or is just ALL the refs fault for consistently dealing with injuries?

Anyway, I can't see why anyone is fussed, like we would have scored :laugh:
 


Finchley Seagull

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He was just outside the centre circle and so wouldn't have obstructed them if they were in a similar position. Sorry but you can't deny that it's an outrage because it didn't suit us, if had of suited us no-one would have mentioned it.

Here's one for you - why don't we blame Whing? He wasn't seriously injured and he must have known what he was doing was going to stop play. If he had have been facing play he could have seen that now was not the time and he could have then gone down when the ball went out. Or is just ALL the refs fault for consistently dealing with injuries?

Anyway, I can't see why anyone is fussed, like we would have scored :laugh:

I don't think it was the fact that play was called back for Whing's injury that was the problem. The issue is the referee let it run for a while and then when we had a chance to score, he stopped play. If he thought the injury to Whing was that serious, why did he wait so long?
 






DJ Leon

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I don't think it was the fact that play was called back for Whing's injury that was the problem. The issue is the referee let it run for a while and then when we had a chance to score, he stopped play. If he thought the injury to Whing was that serious, why did he wait so long?

If the player stays down, the ref stops the match. This happens every single football match.
 


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If the player stays down, the ref stops the match. This happens every single football match.

But Whing had been "down" for a while before play got to that stage, so why did he let the game carry on to the point it did before stopping it?
 


The Large One

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Actually, that incident aside, I thought the ref had a decent game.

Only once was he conned by diving, and that was the lino who flagged for that. I don't recall too many free kicks being given one way or the other, and he didn't seem too peturbed by the Leeds players surrounding him.

And I did find it funny when Wise was screaming at him to get Tommy Elphick booked for handball, and the ref told him to shut up.
 


Tom Hark Preston Park

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If the player stays down, the ref stops the match. This happens every single football match.

He wasn't even 'down' in the Leeds-fake-poleaxed position was he? He was down on one knee, and didn't seem to be struggling particularly. He would probably have got up unassisted in a minute.
 




BigGully

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I think some people need to remove their blue and white spectacles: I thought the ref today was excellent. Kept the game moving, wasn't conned by some blatant Leeds diving and stopped it getting out of hand when tempers flared.

As for the Whing incident, referees are obliged to stop the game if a player has a head injury: he had absolutely no choice about it. It's pretty futile to say that it wasn't serious - the referee's not to know that. And as for the Albion being on the attack, he was probably thinking that I can let them finish the attack but they'll only prat around with the ball for a few minutes so I'd better blow now.

I didn't even think about as an incident until I saw this thread. I met up with a mate after the game and we talked through the game discussing the incidents (as you do) and neither of us saw fit to mention it, that's how trivial we both saw it.

If you want to look for the reasons why we lost, I'd say look at the forwards who wouldn't have scored if they played until midnight and a centre-back who can't stop making simple errors. Every time the Albion lose, there's a thread on NSC saying how poor the referee was - it's getting really, really tedious.

I think that you have it totally wrong.

The Ref knew Whing was down as did Whings own players, it was obviously deemed not a serious injury, dont think that it was deemed a head injury, he looked down winded to me, therefore the Ref didnt stop play and the Brighton players continued to play through to an attacking position.

The Ref had absolutely no reason for him to suddenly think that the injury was worse than first thought as Whings body position did not change.

He should of let the passage of play come to it's natural conclusion.

The frustrating thing for me was the re-start.

Why the Ref encouraged the Brighton players to let the Leeds player kick it down to our left fullback position when we had full control of the play in their last third is ludicrous.

It was entirely the decision of the Ref to stop the game, neither sets of players stopped the game.

Therefore it should of been a competitive drop ball where the game was stopped.
 


dougdeep

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I assumed that Leeds got a clear kick because we didn't want any part in the farce.
 


DJ Leon

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He wasn't even 'down' in the Leeds-fake-poleaxed position was he? He was down on one knee, and didn't seem to be struggling particularly. He would probably have got up unassisted in a minute.

True of virtually every injury these days. Football needs to take a look at itself - yesterday there was virtually an' injury' every 2 minutes.

Anyway next home game I bet we'll have a player down at some point and everyone will be screaming that the game should stop. You can't win if you're an official.
 






Tom Hark Preston Park

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True of virtually every injury these days. Football needs to take a look at itself - yesterday there was virtually an' injury' every 2 minutes.

Reached absurd levels yesterday when the Leeds magicspongeman sprinted down the touchline to a player whose boot had come off :lol:
 


DJ Leon

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You can if you stick to the rules.

He has stuck to the rules. He's considered that an injury is serious enough to warrant stopping the game, this happened after a time because our player stayed down.

I guess we could change the rules so that the ref can only stop play if neither team is in a promising position, but this is a rule change.

As I say take a look next game - the hypocrisy is from the fans and teams not the referee.
 


Yorkie

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Anyway next home game I bet we'll have a player down at some point and everyone will be screaming that the game should stop.

Actually, no, we don't.
 






If anybody was concerned about the player's well being surely our bench would have been yelling at the ref and our slim-line physio would have been in waiting on the touchline waving his arms at the ref to let him on?

Piss poor decision by the ref-nothing more, nothing less. The re-start was also a very poor decision.

After watching the rugby for a few weeks, isn't it embarrassing to see footballers going to ground with their 'injuries'? They are f***ing cheating tarts-pure and simple.
 


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