Oh gawd, she’s in it. Fck sake. A snide and bully from Below Deck.
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[TV] The Traitors - BBC
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Oh gawd, she’s in it. Fck sake. A snide and bully from Below Deck.
Wrong-Direction
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Sam absolute twat
Pavilionaire
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I wouldn't say Charlotte was too cocky, although I think that accusation sticks with Minah. That was the beauty of Charlotte - making a good traitor think she was trustworthy whilst at the same time being the most trusted of arch-faithful Frankie.
I wouldn't have recruited Freddy, but I don't think that in itself was fatal, although it didn't help. Whoever she recruited she would still have been dined by the Seer and so ultimately doomed (unless she'd murdered Frankie instead)
There is no skill in being a faithful, especially when like most of them you fail to pick up on clues / body language. However, I end up rooting for the good traitors because every moment is a lie, and if they were rubbish traitors - like Linda - the series would be a car crash.
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Dorset Seagull
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I know we all laugh about the herd mentality but it actually makes sense. Better to join the herd and vote somebody off and keep yourself safe from the banishment
Part of the reason Frankie chose Charlotte was because Freddie had named her at the last table, which he did because she betrayed him.
I think she still could have won after recruiting Freddie, she just shouldn't have betrayed him so quickly by murdering Leanne and not telling him about the shield.
If they'd murdered Jake or Frankie for example, Freddie would have been banished either in the final roundtable or by the firepit, as there was enough doubt about him. She didn't need to throw him under the bus once he was recruited.
I think people can change when in the traitor role, their psyche. Very mildly like the 1971 Stanford experiment. Some of the traitors developed different personas after they were never targeted and looked up to. Linda, Wilf, Charlotte.
Loved it when they lost.
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Exactly.
Thunder Bolt
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Good news.
Mencap have announced that since Alexander missed out on winning The Traitors and being able to give his share of the prize money to the charity, more than £31,000 has come in via donations from the public.
Mencap have announced that since Alexander missed out on winning The Traitors and being able to give his share of the prize money to the charity, more than £31,000 has come in via donations from the public.
Yeah, Aus2 was brilliant. Another rule change "The Traitors Dilemma" because the way the end game played out. Then them all screwing the other and "the sheriff" having his hissy fit because nobody let him win. Probably my favourite series.
kevo
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Agree - and I can't see they will, as everyone now realises being the seer is a poisoned chalice.
It spoilt it because it was obvious Charlotte was toast so it removed any anticipation that she would win. And she deserved to as she (and Minah, until her fatal mistake) were both superb traitors.
Wrong-Direction
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I was convinced they were all acting at one point
For any missing their Traitor fix the entire third series of the US version is available now on iplayer with the gorgeous Alan Cummins camping it up for all he is worth.
Some of the games are the same eg carrying the stone statues up the hill and the "clown game". (Spoiler alert - no, I can't. It's too funny and typically American.)
Be warned though that the US versions always have Z list "celebs" as the contestants (which I assume is because our cousins across the pond wont watch tv if it contains unheard of randoms!). There are more "Housewives" than you can shake a stick at and contestants from Big Brother and Survivor.
Some of the games are the same eg carrying the stone statues up the hill and the "clown game". (Spoiler alert - no, I can't. It's too funny and typically American.)
Be warned though that the US versions always have Z list "celebs" as the contestants (which I assume is because our cousins across the pond wont watch tv if it contains unheard of randoms!). There are more "Housewives" than you can shake a stick at and contestants from Big Brother and Survivor.
Well, the most obvious result (once Frankie picked Charlotte for the Seer power) was the one we got.
Realistically, though, the turning point for me came before the Seer entered the game and had Charlotte played a different game she may have avoided that problem.
Recruiting Freddie in and of itself wasn't a mistake. I think that was a good play. Throwing him under the bus immediately was the bad play. Not so much because Freddie then became aware she'd done him in before he'd even got a chance to play, but because of how badly he handled everything from the moment Leanne revealed she'd had the shield. I think Charlotte was so focused on being the sole Traitor left in the final that she never considered that Freddie having a "I've been double crossed" meltdown would bring heat onto herself. If she'd worked with him to have someone else (Alexander?) banished at the last round table instead, then it's likely the Seer would have picked Freddie to check instead of Charlotte and the end game potentially plays out very differently.
After all ... she didn't need to double cross him. He was never going to make it all the way through the final anyway, there was too much suspicion of him before he even got recruited. The smart play would have been to bring him in, but do everything she could to convince him that she wanted him to get to the end with her. She could then quietly watch the others make the moves to get rid of him.
Edit: I suspect the inclusion of the Seer power was done to reduce the chances of there being 2 Traitors left when they went to the firepit. It backfired a bit when Charlotte decided she was going to make sure only one Traitor made it that far.
Realistically, though, the turning point for me came before the Seer entered the game and had Charlotte played a different game she may have avoided that problem.
Recruiting Freddie in and of itself wasn't a mistake. I think that was a good play. Throwing him under the bus immediately was the bad play. Not so much because Freddie then became aware she'd done him in before he'd even got a chance to play, but because of how badly he handled everything from the moment Leanne revealed she'd had the shield. I think Charlotte was so focused on being the sole Traitor left in the final that she never considered that Freddie having a "I've been double crossed" meltdown would bring heat onto herself. If she'd worked with him to have someone else (Alexander?) banished at the last round table instead, then it's likely the Seer would have picked Freddie to check instead of Charlotte and the end game potentially plays out very differently.
After all ... she didn't need to double cross him. He was never going to make it all the way through the final anyway, there was too much suspicion of him before he even got recruited. The smart play would have been to bring him in, but do everything she could to convince him that she wanted him to get to the end with her. She could then quietly watch the others make the moves to get rid of him.
Edit: I suspect the inclusion of the Seer power was done to reduce the chances of there being 2 Traitors left when they went to the firepit. It backfired a bit when Charlotte decided she was going to make sure only one Traitor made it that far.
Thunder Bolt
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This has now risen to £64,000. Mencap have received more money in donations than if Alexander had won.