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glasfryn

cleaning up cat sick
Nov 29, 2005
20,261
somewhere in Eastbourne
If you look at my signature you will find a petition to sign asking for an independent watchdog for the RSPCA .
the reason for this is that with an independent watchdog the RSPCA will have to rethink some of their more draconian policies and waste less of the money given in donations.
This is not a slagging off its just that such a large charity should have someone independent looking at them rather than having an internal watchdog with no teeth,the RSPCA do some great work ........but they seem to have lost their way of late and need new ideas and new blood and this could be the way it might happen.



thank you
 






Jul 5, 2003
12,644
Chertsey
In what ways are they wasting money, and have lost their way?

I need to know facts before signing anything!!
 


Questions

Habitual User
Oct 18, 2006
25,512
Worthing
If you look at my signature you will find a petition to sign asking for an independent watchdog for the RSPCA .
the reason for this is that with an independent watchdog the RSPCA will have to rethink some of their more draconian policies and waste less of the money given in donations.
This is not a slagging off its just that such a large charity should have someone independent looking at them rather than having an internal watchdog with no teeth,the RSPCA do some great work ........but they seem to have lost their way of late and need new ideas and new blood and this could be the way it might happen.



thank you



I recently worked on a re-furb in their local offices and they were all moaning that there was not enough room to swing a cat in there.
 






Springal

Well-known member
Feb 12, 2005
24,785
GOSBTS
I recently worked on a re-furb in their local offices and they were all moaning that there was not enough room to swing a cat in there.

:lol:
 


tedebear

Legal Alien
NSC Patron
Jul 7, 2003
17,117
In my computer
Why don't the people having issues with the RSPCA get involved in it to sort the problems rather than expending their energies to set up something else that people have to donate their time and efforts to?

What is the world coming to when a society for the prevention of cruelty needs a watchdog?

I just don't get it....
 






This just sums up why on line petitions are so crap. People get given half an argument then put their names to something without reaserchin or understanding the full issues.
If you have an interest in a cetain issue then find out as much as you can about it before putting your name to any petition. Also find out about any hidden motives people may have for starting a petition.
That is all.
 


Why don't the people having issues with the RSPCA get involved in it to sort the problems rather than expending their energies to set up something else that people have to donate their time and efforts to?

What is the world coming to when a society for the prevention of cruelty needs a watchdog?

I just don't get it....

:clap:

I took a dog-loving group to task about this very same thing, as they attacked the RSPCA for any and everything. Naturally they turned their ire on me, and right after I had personal experience of the RSPCA acting positively on a call I myself had alerted them about!
There is no point in expending time and finances looking at a group who DO actually do something towards the cause.

Like tedebear suggests, If you think you can do a better job, go and do it - don't backbite other organisations, why not work WITH the RSPCA by helping them to re-house lost or badly treated animals? Some people have nothing better to do with their time (and people's well-meaning donations, ffs).
 






Only in Britain does a society to protect animals get the royal title yet the one to protect children doesn't.

The NSPCC has a Royal Charter, just as the RSPCA does, which gives it the right to use the 'Royal' appelation. However, the Society chose at the time (the 1890s) not to exercise that right, a decision subsequent boards have maintained. I'm not sure why the decision was made - I think it might have had something to do with a worry that the public would either be confused by, or would resent, a change of its very well established name.
 


Buzzer

Languidly Clinical
Oct 1, 2006
26,121
The NSPCC has a Royal Charter, just as the RSPCA does, which gives it the right to use the 'Royal' appelation. However, the Society chose at the time (the 1890s) not to exercise that right, a decision subsequent boards have maintained. I'm not sure why the decision was made - I think it might have had something to do with a worry that the public would either be confused by, or would resent, a change of its very well established name.

fair dos :thumbsup:
 


Monkster

Ragamuffin
Jul 7, 2003
1,379
The Token Carlisle United Fan
If you look at my signature you will find a petition to sign asking for an independent watchdog for the RSPCA .
the reason for this is that with an independent watchdog the RSPCA will have to rethink some of their more draconian policies and waste less of the money given in donations.
This is not a slagging off its just that such a large charity should have someone independent looking at them rather than having an internal watchdog with no teeth,the RSPCA do some great work ........but they seem to have lost their way of late and need new ideas and new blood and this could be the way it might happen.



thank you

Oh dear, another person who doesn't understand the fact that the RSPCA is actaully made up of hundereds of different charities.....

Never heard of the Charities commission??
 




Still no answer about how it is that the RSPCA are persuing draconian policies and wasting money though. Please, I am really intrigued as to whatthese policies are and what the waste is.

Unless of course the policy that is so draconian is simply one that you happen to disagree with, in which case I couldn't care less quite frankly.
 


Carrot Cruncher

NHS Slave
Helpful Moderator
Jul 30, 2003
5,053
Southampton, United Kingdom
Still no answer about how it is that the RSPCA are persuing draconian policies and wasting money though. Please, I am really intrigued as to whatthese policies are and what the waste is.

Unless of course the policy that is so draconian is simply one that you happen to disagree with, in which case I couldn't care less quite frankly.

The actual petition website doesn't give any clues either.

It also has only 12 signatures so far...
 


e77

Well-known member
May 23, 2004
7,270
Worthing
Is this something to do with the RSPCA acting like they have legal powers, when in fact they don't?
 






Nibble

New member
Jan 3, 2007
19,238
From what I can tell, it comes from farmers who get shirty when the rspca and police turn up to take the animals from them. It looks like they are having trouble defending themselves in court. They want a watchdog to protect them. Hard to know if they have been truly mis-judged or are pissed off that they got caught.
 


glasfryn

cleaning up cat sick
Nov 29, 2005
20,261
somewhere in Eastbourne
Well,well I have stirred up a hornets nest,draconian policies such as euthanasing FIV cats that are found stray (their inhouse blood tests are very unreliable both ways so in fact they PTS healthy cats and some with FIV have been homed as healthy,and their are many hundreds of cats that could have been homed rather than PTS.) they also PTS many dogs found on the streets that they say are not possible to re-home whereas other charities manage to this with less resources.
They also have a habit of re-homing dogs and cats that have microchips saying the owners could not be found and after WASTING HUGE AMOUNTS OF MONEY trying to defend their mistake have still had to hand back the animal.
they will also refuse to allow you to have an animal from them using the most spurious excuses (no cat flap,you live in a flat,near a road,have children,ect,ect.)
20 years ago this would not have mattered,so why does it now.

Wasting money seems to be one of their best policies,
new fleets of vans because officers could not carry their family in smaller ones so they ordered larger vans,making prosecutions where they have no chance of winning(one police officer was taken to court 8 times) and was still found not guilty for killing an injured cat (its whole back half was squashed into the road)with a spade because the RSPCA and a local vet refused to come out to the cat and he was charged with causing the cat undue stress between the first blow(which actually killed the cat)and the second blow which was done to make sure he had been dispatched this little episode cost the RSPCA £65.000,00 (sixty five thousand pounds)

As for moaning and not doing anything,I have been in cat welfare for many years and have watched from the sidelines, and listened to many people in rescue and most do not have a good word for the RSPCA (ring round a few of the local rescues and ask) I have belonged to another large charity cats protection,and now belong to a rescue that comes under the Cat Action Trust,and still have many friends who work with and in the RSPCA (and also know many that have left because of the bullying and draconian policies) and I have the deepest respect for them and in fact anyone who works in animal rescue,it is as they say a thankless task cleaning up after people who don't look after their animals or won't.

If any of you want to help then I would suggest you have your animals NEUTERED,MICROCHIPPED,AND CHECKED BY A VET AT LEAST ONCE A YEAR.
this would ensure that your animal will not come under the glare of the said charity.

If you want to educate yourselves about the RSPCA google in anti-rspca and see what comes up ........................they can't all be wrong.
 


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