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[Politics] The Right Honourable Suella Braverman. KC MP **Sacked 13/11**
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ManOfSussex
We wunt be druv
As I walked through Hastings town centre earlier to take in some much needed sun along the seafront, there was a 'Free Palestine' demo going on. Quite a few people were there including the police. Anyway whoever was speaking started off by mentioning Braverman and the fact that according to her this is a 'hate march' and everyone in attendance are antisemitic extremists and that the homeless are making a lifetime choice, then I couldn't hear anymore as I walked past.
What struck me and frankly impressed me was whoever this speaker was he was able to mention Braverman and not swear. I couldn't. She is an absolute ****.
What struck me and frankly impressed me was whoever this speaker was he was able to mention Braverman and not swear. I couldn't. She is an absolute ****.
Super Steve Earle
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Trouble is, a 'Free Palestine' demo suggests just a little bit of support for Hamas and their vile, evil slaughter of innocent men, women and children.
True. And Glastonbury will be more interesting if tents are banned. And benefit, at the very least it will remove the daily issue of trying to find your tent whilst off your tits at 5am.
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dejavuatbtn
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Kenneth Williams would have been furious.
No, it doesn't.
Mmmmm......perhaps. Perhaps not. It all depends whether they declared support for Hamas. Anyone know if they did?
BluesRockDJ
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- Jan 24, 2020
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Please don't associate that daughter of overseas immigrants with a great song by Talking Heads !
No it doesn’t. Not at all. For example if you believe Ireland should be a single sovereign island it doesn’t mean you support the IRA. Conversely if you believe NI should be British it doesn’t imply you support the UDF.
ManOfSussex
We wunt be druv
As I said, Sussex Police were there and a quick look at the type of people in attendance would lead me to assume that none of them support terrorism.
Apropos to the Right Honourable member for Fareham, I was also asked if I had any change on my way in and and out of Morrisons when I dived in for a couple of bits before they closed at 1600 by 2 different people. Both these homeless people who obviously chose to be so due to conscious lifestyle choice had English accents. They must have been pretending not to be foreign......
Seagull58
In the Algarve
Except where the alternative is to sleep without a tent on a wet, dirty pavement. The best solution, surely, would be to provide accommodation e.g. dormitories, for anybody that has nowhere permanent to live? Do councils and NGOs still offer this?
Thunder Bolt
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- Apr 5, 2014
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I wonder if my belief in a United Ireland, if it was the majority will of the people, makes me anti-British ? But of course, some would say that means I support the IRA. The frustration is that they know that I don't well enough, but cannot countenance how it forces them into sane and rational discussion.
But this is how politics works in recent times. The present government has to have a populist position. Yet they are merely appealing to the 25% support they already have.
It is unfathomable that a group of so few people could gamble the cultural balance of that nation to feed their own egos.
A while ago I gave up having any form of support for any political party. I will always be neutral. Yet, apart from some utterly dull general administration stuff, this government cannot garner my enthusiasm for a single thing they do. Mainly because of the hearts behind it. It is time to go, before they take even more hope and harmony with them.
ClemFandango
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- Oct 2, 2023
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Everyone clutching their pearls should check out the tent cities blighting LA, San Fran, Portland etc. Is that what you really want in Brighton? It’s kinda heading that way in parts
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
I can remember the beatniks sleeping under the pier 60 years ago.
There are several homeless charities in Brighton where help can be found.
Do you think banning tents in cities will eradicate the problem, or just transfer it somewhere else?
The answer is to reduce homelessness, not make it harder for the homeless to find shelter and to demonise them.
clapham_gull
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- Aug 20, 2003
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This isn't America, some people who spend far too much on the internet fail to understand.
I've lived in London for almost 30 years and it's London that our click bait dog whistling embarrassment of a home secretary is usually referring to.
When she has exhausted her fear of the foreigner she turns her attention to fear of a new "other", your neighbour.
We tend not to fall for it up here, I'm sorry that you did.
Cotton Socks
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- Feb 20, 2017
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I sleep in a tent a few nights a year as a lifestyle choice, it's called camping. It's fun (allegedly) all together in a field with kids playing rounders, bbq's & campfires. In the middle of Aug I went to bed wearing pj's, a hoodie, a sleeping bag with a hood & a duvet, laying on top of a air bed with pillows. I was still chilly.
'Camping' is a lifestyle choice but in a decent tent, with fresh water of some description & the knowledge that if it all starts leaking or thunderstorms etc., you can sleep in the car.
Sleeping rough in a shit '2 person' pop up tent that wouldn't be big enough for my dog to turn around in, is probably not a lifestyle choice.
Nearly 20 years ago I went to a 'Ball' at The Grand for a charity event to raise funds in the name of a young girl who had passed away. I went outside for a cigarette & ended up sitting on the floor in my ball gown chatting to a homeless guy. He didn't speak to me 1st or ask for a cigarette, I struck up the conversation because I feel more uncomfortable 'not' talking to people, I even spoke to Palace fans that night (don't start smoking kids, as you'll end up having to speak to Palace fans).
When I did eventually ask him how he had he found himself outside The Grand in January he said it was because that was where he wanted to be. He made it sound like a 'lifestyle choice' to start with. Upon further questioning he revealed that he had been in the army, suffered from ptsd & couldn't stand the thought of being 'trapped'. Suella would take that as a 'lifestyle choice', most of us would see that as a person who needs treatment for ptsd so that he can feel comfortable living in a 'home' he can call his own. My friends did eventually come to his rescue & find me. On departing he tried to give me some money to add to the charity funds & only accepted the rest of my cigarettes because I threatened to stay and chat to him for longer! He probably didn't even smoke.
He didn't actually have a tent in the vicinity that I noticed but under this new 'bright' idea, it could've been taken away from him.
I'm sure there's a saying along the lines of.... people are only 3 months wages away from being homeless. For a lot of people (probably the majority) this is true. You know those 'to let' prices you see that are '£1500 per month', what they actually mean in Brighton, is that it's 'from £1500 per month'. There is now bidding going on, 6 months rent up front, guarantor, plus deposit is becoming normal. If you don't believe me go onto an estate agents website, ask to view a couple of properties, view 1, say you'll take it, then see what happens.
If I become homeless you'll know who I am as I'll pitch my expensive tent up in Stanmer Park, with my gazebo, bbq, camping gas stoves & all the little 'lifestyle choice' luxuries & I'll put a Brighton flag somewhere on my set up. Then over time & weather etc you can watch an amazing set up be reduced to a 2 man tent with my dog because that's what happens. No fixed address & you're out of the housing market, being on benefits puts you out of the housing market. Kids and parents living in bedsits but Suella is taking aim at people who are lucky to have a 2 man tent. FFS.
'Camping' is a lifestyle choice but in a decent tent, with fresh water of some description & the knowledge that if it all starts leaking or thunderstorms etc., you can sleep in the car.
Sleeping rough in a shit '2 person' pop up tent that wouldn't be big enough for my dog to turn around in, is probably not a lifestyle choice.
Nearly 20 years ago I went to a 'Ball' at The Grand for a charity event to raise funds in the name of a young girl who had passed away. I went outside for a cigarette & ended up sitting on the floor in my ball gown chatting to a homeless guy. He didn't speak to me 1st or ask for a cigarette, I struck up the conversation because I feel more uncomfortable 'not' talking to people, I even spoke to Palace fans that night (don't start smoking kids, as you'll end up having to speak to Palace fans).
When I did eventually ask him how he had he found himself outside The Grand in January he said it was because that was where he wanted to be. He made it sound like a 'lifestyle choice' to start with. Upon further questioning he revealed that he had been in the army, suffered from ptsd & couldn't stand the thought of being 'trapped'. Suella would take that as a 'lifestyle choice', most of us would see that as a person who needs treatment for ptsd so that he can feel comfortable living in a 'home' he can call his own. My friends did eventually come to his rescue & find me. On departing he tried to give me some money to add to the charity funds & only accepted the rest of my cigarettes because I threatened to stay and chat to him for longer! He probably didn't even smoke.
He didn't actually have a tent in the vicinity that I noticed but under this new 'bright' idea, it could've been taken away from him.I'm sure there's a saying along the lines of.... people are only 3 months wages away from being homeless. For a lot of people (probably the majority) this is true. You know those 'to let' prices you see that are '£1500 per month', what they actually mean in Brighton, is that it's 'from £1500 per month'. There is now bidding going on, 6 months rent up front, guarantor, plus deposit is becoming normal. If you don't believe me go onto an estate agents website, ask to view a couple of properties, view 1, say you'll take it, then see what happens.
If I become homeless you'll know who I am as I'll pitch my expensive tent up in Stanmer Park, with my gazebo, bbq, camping gas stoves & all the little 'lifestyle choice' luxuries & I'll put a Brighton flag somewhere on my set up. Then over time & weather etc you can watch an amazing set up be reduced to a 2 man tent with my dog because that's what happens. No fixed address & you're out of the housing market, being on benefits puts you out of the housing market. Kids and parents living in bedsits but Suella is taking aim at people who are lucky to have a 2 man tent. FFS.