Quite right I guess. Back in the day detention centers and borstals were staffed by ex military and police.Sure crooks met other crooks but in the open Bortsals a lot of good work was done for those on the fringes of crime. The harsher ones punished by regulation, routine and forced education, back then of course!
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[Albion] The return of capital punishment?
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Quite right I guess. Back in the day detention centers and borstals were staffed by ex military and police.Sure crooks met other crooks but in the open Bortsals a lot of good work was done for those on the fringes of crime. The harsher ones punished by regulation, routine and forced education, back then of course!
Nah, loads would leave 15mins before it was over anyway [emoji106]
Nothing wrong with top hats, adding up on an abacus, cycling round town on a penny farthing, caning seven year olds for talking back to the teacher (sorry, actually there is something wrong with that unless you're a masochist nonce) or driving round in a Ford Cortina. All are about as relevant.
No there isn't anything wrong with it IMO. Have yours it doesn't bother me much.
Ps who said anything about canning seven year olds you sick ***k!
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midnight_rendezvous
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There is no way of measuring what hypothetical crime might be have been prevented because of capital punishment. It is impossible to measure. What we can measure however is the data we do have. As I said before, states in the US with the death penalty have higher murder rates than states that don’t. This indicates that the punishment is not deterring criminals, a view shared by most criminologists. And as a teacher, I’m more interested in the cause of misdemeanours than what harsh punishment I can inflict. Prevention is far more effective than harsh punishments.
Blackadder
Brighton Bhuna Boy
Yes, knife crime has increased this side of the pond but are you seriously comparing the two?
Donald T did but he's a bit of a .....
Again when you are wrong what would yo do to compensate because you are not even close to being 100% right.
Blue Valkyrie
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Post #75 from a poster who hasn't been on NSC for a while, is one I haven't been able to forget.
https://nortr3nixy.nimpr.uk/showthread.php?p=7149187
https://nortr3nixy.nimpr.uk/showthread.php?p=7149187
Hillian1
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Has Derek Bentley been mentioned yet?
Can't be arsed to read the thread.
Let him have it Chris.
Can't be arsed to read the thread.
Let him have it Chris.
Guy Fawkes
The voice of treason
- Sep 29, 2007
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With our society turning more and more away from killing animals, (even for food) i think it's more likely our society will start to get offended by, and therefore turn against the brutal killing of vegetables for food, (in the same way we are starting to turn against meat consumption) rather than ever bringing back capital punishment.
These poor defenseless vegetables which are often killed when they've reached their prime don't receive any humane treatment prior to their 'harvesting' to prevent their suffering, instead as they are just cruelly removed from their natural environment by machinery (in most cases) and then left to wither and die slowly, or exposed to very low temperatures to freeze them when they are still alive - just to meet our nutritional needs without a single thought towards how scared they will be or how much they will suffer after being 'picked' or how their seeing other vegetables being picked before them will make them feel (highly stressed no doubt)
Moshe Gariani
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- Mar 10, 2005
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Studies in the US have found much lower levels of re-offending by murderers who are executed compared to those who serve prison sentences.
rogersix
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- Jan 18, 2014
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how do you know all this stuff?
BadFish
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- Oct 19, 2003
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In order to vote for the death penalty I would need to be convinced of a few things.
1. That said action was an effective deterrent to the crimes of which they are a punishment and that there are not other, more effective ways to reduce said crime.
2. That the judicial system could not or does not make mistakes. To this end we would need a discussion on how guilt can be 100% proven.
3. That the death penalty is an effective method of giving the victims and loved ones of victims the healing they need to move on.
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1. That said action was an effective deterrent to the crimes of which they are a punishment and that there are not other, more effective ways to reduce said crime.
2. That the judicial system could not or does not make mistakes. To this end we would need a discussion on how guilt can be 100% proven.
3. That the death penalty is an effective method of giving the victims and loved ones of victims the healing they need to move on.
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- Feb 22, 2014
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Whoosh!
Personally I would be against capital punishment for the simple reason mistakes are made and before anyone makes a decision about itpunishment you should read "The Secret Barrister: Stories of the Law and How It's Broken"! The state of the criminal justice system will really scare you!
METALMICKY
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- Jan 30, 2004
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This ! Posthumous pardons pointless
rogersix
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Louis MacNeice
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- Dec 7, 2015
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No, no and thrice no. For starters I don't trust the police not to make 'mistakes' - either by design or by accident. Then to put someone's life in the hands of 12 random people plucked from society .... errr .... hello ..... utter madness.
If we still had it Colin Stagg would have been killed. Tony Martin would have been dead before his offence could have been downgraded to manslaughter.
If we still had it Colin Stagg would have been killed. Tony Martin would have been dead before his offence could have been downgraded to manslaughter.