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The Queen vs The Republic

Continue with Monarchy or bring on the Republic?

  • Off with their heads, bring on the Republic

    Votes: 83 43.9%
  • God save her graciousness and all her progeny.

    Votes: 106 56.1%

  • Total voters
    189


Beach Hut

Brighton Bhuna Boy
Jul 5, 2003
72,315
Living In a Box
God Bless her, she is our greatest icon
 




Stato

Well-known member
Dec 21, 2011
7,367
Not one of New Order's best albums, but better than anything by Mercury's bunch of twerps.
 


Maldini

Banned
Aug 19, 2015
927
The idea of a Royal Family is so totally outdated.This is 2016.

As individuals I find them all totally bland and of no interest.
 


beorhthelm

A. Virgo, Football Genius
Jul 21, 2003
36,015
the problem as i see it with republicanism is that it does solve much. yes, you voted in the head of state instead of appointment by birth, but beyond that principle what does it actually change in terms of governance? there are so many different forms of republic its hard to see, and they seem to bring problems. theres still the entourage, the hangers on, the state banquets and palaces to staff and run, the security, the general accusation of wasting public money. if you were starting from scratch you wouldnt chose a monarchy, but then you'd probably look hard at the nature of democracy as we implement it too. it got its benefits, the inate sense of duty and long term view is something we are missing in our party politics. its worked for us well for over 300 years, so until theres a genuinly better alternative on offer, best to stick with it.
 






catfish

North Stand Brighton Boy
Dec 17, 2010
7,677
Worthing
The whole concept of a royal family is an outdated anachronism. They certainly shouldn't receive any public funding.
 




Harry Wilson's tackle

Harry Wilson's Tackle
NSC Patron
Oct 8, 2003
56,119
Faversham
It ain't broke so don't fix it. Chazzer my be a bit of a challenge, but I have every faith in the young emoter next in line. Plus the Yanks would spunk a mass of dosh to have our history. God bless the Queen (irrespective of my view that there is no god) if you'll accept a very nuanced statement of opinion. There is probably more content in this reply than there is words. Apols again :shrug::cheers:
 




El Presidente

The ONLY Gay in Brighton
Helpful Moderator
Jul 5, 2003
40,006
Pattknull med Haksprut
God save the Queen, for tourists are money, and our figurehead, she ain't what she seems.


Sent from Konnie Huq's lingerie drawer.
 








pastafarian

Well-known member
Sep 4, 2011
11,902
Sussex
doesn’t do any harm to anyone,doesn’t distract democratically, doesn’t cost anything to moan about individually, a lady that always has the best interests of its citizens as her core goal, a great ambassador to our friends all over the commonwealth.

whats not to like.

Lets hope William and Catherine continue the good work(hoping Charles is locked up to talk with vegetables),things look even better with the more astute younger generation and their responsibilities. The future is very bright for the British Monarchy.

No chance of it being abolished for in my lifetime nor even the next generation
as Corbyn said its not a battle he wants……why would he?
 








Mr Bridger

Sound of the suburbs
Feb 25, 2013
4,753
Earth
She's an absolute gem, and almost level pegging with Chris Houghton in legend status. Happy birthday ma'am.
 


Mo Gosfield

Well-known member
Aug 11, 2010
6,362
The idea of a Royal Family is so totally outdated.This is 2016.

As individuals I find them all totally bland and of no interest.


...unlike our political friends, who, of course, are oozing personality and charisma. Are honest and have our best interest at heart.
 


heathgate

Well-known member
NSC Patron
Apr 13, 2015
3,860
The nearly 90 year old Queen has been on the throne for 64 years. What is your view on the UK's hereditary unelected Head of State?
As she has no real say over our political systems, save for some ceremonial responsibilities, and the financial outlay by the treasury is small compared to the income derived from the tourism they obviously encourage..... I say she has done a decent job overall.

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biddles911

New member
May 12, 2014
348
The idea of a hereditary head of state is old fashioned but in reality she is merely a figurehead and does a very good job at it. The government run the country pretty much unhindered.

The alternative is probably a president and then you have to ask who are you likely to get then!!!! If it were like America, then the head of state would be a position bought by the highest bidder. That would leave a nasty taste in the mouth.

Yes, the American system is both ridiculously convoluted and corrupt, partly due to their refusal to allow caps on electioneering spend but that doesn't invalidate the concept of an elected president chosen on merit.

I have a lot of time for QE2 who does a magnificent job but the position is an anachronism and helps perpetuate a system that still, to some degree, favours who you know rather than what you know.

Time to move on.....!?
 




Mo Gosfield

Well-known member
Aug 11, 2010
6,362
The whole concept of a royal family is an outdated anachronism. They certainly shouldn't receive any public funding.

....unlike the Civil Service who continue to bleed us dry and bog the whole country down with levels of bureaucracy that hinder business development at every turn. An organisation that is also hereditary, ensuring a steady line of public school attendees fill all manner of hugely paid and obscure posts, eventually leading to knighthoods and awards and pensions that you and I can only dream about. The Royal Family generates wealth for this country. The Civil Service costs us billions in pen-pushers and meetings, This is where there has to be a cull. Not in schools, hospitals or vital services but in thousands of individuals doing routine and meaningless jobs, just to prop up the political elite in this country and ensure their self-interests are maintained. They don't represent us. They pretend they do. They were all exposed with snouts in the trough but we have all turned a blind eye to it and just let the nonsense continue.
Monarchy works and pays for itself.
 




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