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The Palace Conspiracy



Keyser Söze

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Jul 21, 2010
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There is a common saying; only the very stupid think the law is stupid.

This week, Sussex Police released pictures of people they want to speak to in relation to the disorder that occurred on the 27th September prior to the match with Crystal Palace. They have also indicated more arrests (and presumably pictures for snitches to peruse) are to come as part of the post match investigation.

Am I the only one who thinks there should be a serious inquiry into the way the day unfolded, but not an enquiry into the behaviour of the fans, but those who were supposed to Police the fixture.

It's not secret to anyone, least of all the police that there was going to be a LOT of people hell bent on having a bit of fun. It was discussed on forums like this from the moment it looked like we would get promoted, so how did they get it so wrong? Answer - they let it.

Take before the game, they had approximately 200 Palace fans under wraps in Wetherspoons on West Street. At the pubs around Brighton station a similar number of Brighton herberts had congregated with a large Police presence. Now obviously the Police had to move the scum from their drinking hole to Brighton station at some point, but they way they did it leaves a lot of questions. In my view they had 2 options. Option 1. Take the Palace on a straight march up Queens Road directly through the waiting Albion hoards. Or Option 2. Take the Palace fans up Queens Rd as far as the junction just before the Standard pub, then take a left and go around onto Trafalger St, come out of the tunnel under the station. The only pubs the Palace would get anywhere near would be The Prince Albert and the Grand Central. Meanwhile they could have kept the Albion lads cooped up in The Standard, The Queens Head and The Railway Bell. It would be unlikely either side would even see each other in Option 2, whereas Option 1 almost garunteed trouble. Well geuss what? Our devoted Police force chose Option 1. If a humble observer such as myself could spot this, then why couldn't someone paid to keep the peace?

After the game was a similar story, the Police allowed Palace fans to come back to Brighton station when there was absolutely no need to. Now we all know that Sussex Police are incompetent beyond belief, but does anyone think they are that stupid? The whole affair stinks to high heaven. The press and the Police are calling for the heads of people, but they pretty much arranged the entire incident. It was all done so that the handbags that unfolded could be filmed, and the overtime wages being paid to the football unit could be justified. As a result at least one person was injured (by the cowardly baton weilding thugs I might add), several windows were smashed, and I have it from a good source that one man walking his dog was assaulted.

In short, Sussex Police knowingly endangered people and allowed a breach of the peace, just to justify the millions needlessly pumped into policing football. Either that or they truly are f***ing stupid. If heads should roll for this it should not be those they are parading in front of the media, it's whoever was tasked with policing this fixture.
 
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Lady Whistledown

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Jul 7, 2003
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"overtime wages" :lol:

What planet are you on??!
 








Feb 14, 2010
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Why we pay policemen to chase after blokes that want to have a punch up at football is, in my view, a waste of my money. Find a disused industrial estate and let them get on with it. Still with the half a million policemen at lewes bonfire, then the police do like to spend my cash by asking people in nice uniforms to stand around allot. Ever seen a policeman in Whitehawk? Limited resources and the police spend it on guarding starbucks in lewes and chasing after a few blokes that fight over football. This in the city that has the worst drug problem in the country. Absurd, but equally if people were involved then they knew the risks and they cant moan.
 


Bozza

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Jul 4, 2003
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After the game was a similar story, the Police allowed Palace fans to come back to Brighton station when there was absolutely no need to.

That's not actually true at all. Up until a few days before the game, there was plans for a special train to be at Falmer after the game to run back to Palace-ville. The train would have been able to take c1000 fans straight there.

For reasons outside Sussex Police's control this was pulled late on.
 




Sep 1, 2011
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That's not actually true at all. Up until a few days before the game, there was plans for a special train to be at Falmer after the game to run back to Palace-ville. The train would have been able to take c1000 fans straight there.

For reasons outside Sussex Police's control this was pulled late on.

Can you share the reason?
 


Keyser Söze

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Jul 21, 2010
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Seems like Sussex OB got what they wanted

They certainly did Charlie me old fruit. Minor disorder and the chance to hand out plenty of banning orders. I'd wager the club was in on it to, they have been handing out club bans like party bags for f*** all incidents. People arrested (not convicted) have been banned for life without chance to appeal. Meaning anyone found to be innocent is banned for nothing. Very fair.
 


Keyser Söze

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Jul 21, 2010
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That's not actually true at all. Up until a few days before the game, there was plans for a special train to be at Falmer after the game to run back to Palace-ville. The train would have been able to take c1000 fans straight there.

For reasons outside Sussex Police's control this was pulled late on.

Fair enough I will strike that from my argument. They still managed to allow 20-30 Palace to slip the net and it came dangerously close to going totally tits up. As I said in my initial post they are incompetent as sin so I don't hold that one against them.

I'm still to hear a logical reason why they (Palace) were taken to Brighton station on the route they were though.
 






Bozza

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Fair enough I will strike that from my argument. They still managed to allow 20-30 Palace to slip the net and it came dangerously close to going totally tits up. As I said in my initial post they are incompetent as sin so I don't hold that one against them.

I'm still to hear a logical reason why they were taken to Brighton station on the route they were though.

You're casting a lot of very wild aspersions. You are not anonymous on here. Good luck.
 










_mark_

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Aug 24, 2011
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Why we pay policemen to chase after blokes that want to have a punch up at football is, in my view, a waste of my money. Find a disused industrial estate and let them get on with it. Still with the half a million policemen at lewes bonfire, then the police do like to spend my cash by asking people in nice uniforms to stand around allot. Ever seen a policeman in Whitehawk? Limited resources and the police spend it on guarding starbucks in lewes and chasing after a few blokes that fight over football. This in the city that has the worst drug problem in the country. Absurd, but equally if people were involved then they knew the risks and they cant moan.

Any chance of speaking English in the future?
 


rudeboy

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Sep 17, 2008
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totally true. fkin clueless allday should be made accountable for there clueless so called operation.
There is a common saying; only the very stupid think the law is stupid.

This week, Sussex Police released pictures of people they want to speak to in relation to the disorder that occurred on the 27th September prior to the match with Crystal Palace. They have also indicated more arrests (and presumably pictures for snitches to peruse) are to come as part of the post match investigation.

Am I the only one who thinks there should be a serious inquiry into the way the day unfolded, but not an enquiry into the behaviour of the fans, but those who were supposed to Police the fixture.

It's not secret to anyone, least of all the police that there was going to be a LOT of people hell bent on having a bit of fun. It was discussed on forums like this from the moment it looked like we would get promoted, so how did they get it so wrong? Answer - they let it.

Take before the game, they had approximately 200 Palace fans under wraps in Wetherspoons on West Street. At the pubs around Brighton station a similar number of Brighton herberts had congregated with a large Police presence. Now obviously the Police had to move the scum from their drinking hole to Brighton station at some point, but they way they did it leaves a lot of questions. In my view they had 2 options. Option 1. Take the Palace on a straight march up Queens Road directly through the waiting Albion hoards. Or Option 2. Take the Palace fans up Queens Rd as far as the junction just before the Standard pub, then take a left and go around onto Trafalger St, come out of the tunnel under the station. The only pubs the Palace would get anywhere near would be The Prince Albert and the Grand Central. Meanwhile they could have kept the Albion lads cooped up in The Standard, The Queens Head and The Railway Bell. It would be unlikely either side would even see each other in Option 2, whereas Option 1 almost garunteed trouble. Well geuss what? Our devoted Police force chose Option 1. If a humble observer such as myself could spot this, then why couldn't someone paid to keep the peace?

After the game was a similar story, the Police allowed Palace fans to come back to Brighton station when there was absolutely no need to. Now we all know that Sussex Police are incompetent beyond belief, but does anyone think they are that stupid? The whole affair stinks to high heaven. The press and the Police are calling for the heads of people, but they pretty much arranged the entire incident. It was all done so that the handbags that unfolded could be filmed, and the overtime wages being paid to the football unit could be justified. As a result at least one person was injured (by the cowardly baton weilding thugs I might add), several windows were smashed, and I have it from a good source that one man walking his dog was assaulted.

In short, Sussex Police knowingly endangered people and allowed a breach of the peace, just to justify the millions needlessly pumped into policing football. Either that or they truly are f***ing stupid. If heads should roll for this it should not be those they are parading in front of the media, it's whoever was tasked with policing this fixture.
 




Bozza

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Jul 4, 2003
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All I've said is my opinion and facts. It's a free country. You think I don't know who reads this forum?

If you say so.

Some of your questions are reasonable and well presented. Presumably prior to posting them on NSC you have taken them through more appropriate official channels?
 


Keyser Söze

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Jul 21, 2010
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If you say so.

Some of your questions are reasonable and well presented. Presumably prior to posting them on NSC you have taken them through more appropriate official channels?

Now that did make me L-O-L. Do you really think any 'official' channels would pay any attention to lil old me? No bozza your forum is the platform for this. I'm not the only one raising this issue either.
 


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