[Albion] The Official Potter In / Out thread

[neilbard]

Confidence totally shot but they are digging in and GP has certainly not lost the dressing room imo. The slow and frankly painful buildups and shot shy players is all part of shot confidence imo.

The players are hanging in there, we need to as well

We really do need some luck to get a game over the line, then who knows?

Some fans, as is clear from this thread, think there is a miracle cure, i.e sack the manager. To me anyway that is plain foolish and short sighted but there is as much chance that I am as wrong as I think the quitters are

I wonder if TB is a waverer too? He is a fan, first and foremost, just like us

To be fair, I don't think TB will waver until he really feels this hasn't worked, I'm in the out camp currently but who knows if he can turn this round I will be back in the in camp.

Some of the football we have played has been exciting, the stats are encouraging, but and its a big but, stats don't win you games.

The reason he won't be sacked is Bloom in my opinion would struggle to attract a decent manager to replace him, we are what we are, but that won't stop the average supporter getting fed up.

The other problem is even if we wanted to get behind the team we can't, COVID has put a stop to that.

Anyway for what it's worth I think West Brom have probably done us a massive favour in sacking Bilić.

 

[Guinness Boy]

This, of course begs the question: Is there anyone out there who will do a better job with the players we have and the stipulations/restrictions we have in place?

I am not convinced that Eddie Howe can do a better job.

This begs the answer "of course there is" but I wouldn't expect many fans to be able to call it. When Potter left Swansea for us, who among their fans had even heard of Steve Cooper? Yet his first season was more successful than Potter's was there.

Tony will have a list of candidates because owners / chairmen always do, just in case the current incumbent leaves of his own accord. He will, though, despite this thread, be unwilling to do the swap. As much as I voted "out" I think there is as much chance of Tony pulling the trigger as me signing for Arsenal as their new centre back.

 

[portlock seagull]

Yes I know that the portlock fella said this three seasons in a row, because there is a search function on this forum and at some point not too long ago I had a look on whether portslock_guy always was as obnoxiously assured of the worst while calling everyone else idiots. Turned out that it was the case. GP, CH, all the players - everything is always shit and everyone who doesnt believe this to be the case are also shit.

As for your opinions on my "sanctimonious" posts I dont really care, if you get up-winded its your problem, not mine.

No, just you cuckooman. And what a sad swede you are for (selective) searching 3 years of posts to badly prove, well, no point at all. Except yet again you’re full of it, as you have been since arriving in our nest. Time for you to move on and find a new board to pollute. Perhaps your own team for example?!

 

[RandyWanger]

We dominate possession in most games we play, so potter ball is working. What we do is make mistakes in defence and can't take our chances. This is down to the quality of the players, not the way they're coached. Recruitment team need to provide the players for potter to be a success.

One small issue, we're crap at corners and free kicks in wide areas, so directing our play down the wings and crossing balls in, is not going to score us many goals by the time we've slowed it down and allowed teams to get organised. I'd love some more first time crosses, low into the box so our midget forwards can run onto them, and the other wide player to be running in on the back post when the obvious miss happens.

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

ohhh it's tense... if we win our next game will there be another dramatic swing...

At least the next home game is against good old Arsenal

 

[BadFish]

This begs the answer "of course there is" but I wouldn't expect many fans to be able to call it. When Potter left Swansea for us, who among their fans had even heard of Steve Cooper? Yet his first season was more successful than Potter's was there.

Tony will have a list of candidates because owners / chairmen always do, just in case the current incumbent leaves of his own accord. He will, though, despite this thread, be unwilling to do the swap. As much as I voted "out" I think there is as much chance of Tony pulling the trigger as me signing for Arsenal as their new centre back.

I am sure you'd still be an improvement on Mustafi

I would agree that Tony and Paul have a list of candidates. Although I would imagine that if they thought that one of those on the list could do a better job than Our Graham then the trigger would be pulled.

I agree with you that he won't pull the trigger (yet) but that is more because I am less than convinced that there are many managers out there who could do better with the club's constraints and requirements and who would be willing to join us.

 

[London Irish]

Yesterday was every bit as bad as the performances that got Hughton sacked and it didn't come out of the blue, all of the frailties have been there for ages, possession but no real incisive creativity, chance completion dire, defensive blunders de rigeur. I'd argue yesterday was worse with the 10 men and a side that is practically already relegated

 

[Wozza]

We dominate possession in most games we play, so potter ball is working. What we do is make mistakes in defence and can't take our chances. This is down to the quality of the players, not the way they're coached. Recruitment team need to provide the players for potter to be a success.

One small issue, we're crap at corners and free kicks in wide areas, so directing our play down the wings and crossing balls in, is not going to score us many goals by the time we've slowed it down and allowed teams to get organised. I'd love some more first time crosses, low into the box so our midget forwards can run onto them, and the other wide player to be running in on the back post when the obvious miss happens.

Potterball is working? If it doesn't include actually getting the ball in the net, it's not for me.

It's amazing Potter gets a free pass on set pieces (defending and attacking). He's the frigging coach. Coach and inspire the players to do something!

 

[Mellor 3 Ward 4]

Still 'In' for me.

I still believe that it's only fine margins and we are really not far away (i.e. one top quality striker) from being a good team, however he IMO overthinks his team - and he doesn't know his best 11 and confidence is very low at the moment.

Potter however does need to stop tinkering so much (Lamptey's injury didn't help on Saturday)

Dropping Ryan is a good start - short of confidence - he just doesn't save enough shots - he wouldn't have saved the free kick on Saturday

What has Alzate done to upset him? (same for Propper, although I'm no big fan of his anyway)

We need a win, a lucky win - and to keep hold of Biss - one of the best midfielders I've seen play for Brighton.

 

[Seasidesage]

In - Although becoming concerned by the groundhog day that sees us outplay but fail to beat team after team. For the out camp its no good ducking the issue of who would replace him, its central to your argument. If we replace Potter with Jimmy Case its unlikely to end well right? Our recruitment within the confines established has in the main been pretty good and we have some very good young players who will go for big money at some point. But the trouble with buying potential is that you have to wait for it.

If there is a better manager willing to work with the budget and the remit to produce young players so be it I want the best for my club. But who is this guy? Potter for me his produced a talented but unbalanced team capable of some great football but lacking both a clinical finisher and steel. In my mind a number of these squad players have outlived their usefulness. Ryan, Propper, AJ, but we may also have to sacrifice one of the crown jewels to refresh the squad and get us the goals and grit needed to survive. Stick with Potter for me but get him a real goalscorer even if it means paying over the odds because we cannot go on outplaying teams and drawing....

 

[brighton_tom]

If Webster’s header onto the bar at Fulham goes in, or AJ nods in from that scramble at the end of the Sheff game then we’d all be pretty satisfied. It’s fine margins. I’m not Potter out but come January there must be a signing or 2 of quality that can actually make a difference. No more punts on players with potential. Doubt it’ll happen though.

 

[The Wookiee]

if we lose the next 3 league games, the pressure will really be on to get a result v Newport in the cup, a real banana skin, lose that and then that could be the final nail in the coffin.

 

[vagabond]

if we lose the next 3 league games, the pressure will really be on to get a result v Newport in the cup, a real banana skin, lose that and then that could be the final nail in the coffin.

Given that Bloom didn’t sack Hughton mid season when we were on a far worse run than this and could barely get a shot on goal...

I think Potter will be kept on regardless of results. Perhaps a review will happen end of season.

The club are realistic that relegation is always a real possibility. The facts are we’re dominating possession and creating hatfuls of chances every game. We just need to take them.

 

[Ethelwulf]

if we lose the next 3 league games, the pressure will really be on to get a result v Newport in the cup, a real banana skin, lose that and then that could be the final nail in the coffin.

As Ian Hart has already stated if we keep on losing Potter will still be in a job even if we lose to Newport and finish 20th no chance of Bloom sacking him anymore and Potter would have to quit its a rerun of Hypia

 

[albionalex]

Given that Bloom didn’t sack Hughton mid season when we were on a far worse run than this and could barely get a shot on goal...

I think Potter will be kept on regardless of results. Perhaps a review will happen end of season.

The club are realistic that relegation is always a real possibility. The facts are we’re dominating possession and creating hatfuls of chances every game. We just need to take them.

Under Hughton we never dipped into the bottom 3, though. Which at the moment looks inevitable.

However, I also think Potter will be kept on.

 

[Billy the Fish]

As Ian Hart has already stated if we keep on losing Potter will still be in a job even if we lose to Newport and finish 20th no chance of Bloom sacking him anymore and Potter would have to quit its a rerun of Hypia

Can't see it myself.

Opinions and plans can change pretty quickly. I know Harty is connected and got that info from somewhere, but I don't believe for one second that Tony would just sit on his hands if we keep churning out crap performances like sheff U, West Brom, Burney. It doesn't ring true.

 

[vagabond]

Can't see it myself.

Opinions and plans can change pretty quickly. I know Harty is connected and got that info from somewhere, but I don't believe for one second that Tony would just sit on his hands if we keep churning out crap performances like sheff U, West Brom, Burney. It doesn't ring true.

Yet he did when we suffered home defeats to Bournemouth and Cardiff under Hughton (though he would later act on it of course by end of season).

 

[stingray]

Given that Bloom didn’t sack Hughton mid season when we were on a far worse run than this and could barely get a shot on goal...

I think Potter will be kept on regardless of results. Perhaps a review will happen end of season.

The club are realistic that relegation is always a real possibility. The facts are we’re dominating possession and creating hatfuls of chances every game. We just need to take them.

Hughton had a pretty decent first half of 18-19 season, unlike this one under GP.

I doubt Tony Bloom will tolerate another season like this with GP, sd this relegation form continue. For 'review' read regression read relegation.

 

[Richy_Seagull]

Can't see it myself.

Opinions and plans can change pretty quickly. I know Harty is connected and got that info from somewhere, but I don't believe for one second that Tony would just sit on his hands if we keep churning out crap performances like sheff U, West Brom, Burney. It doesn't ring true.

Tony is also a numbers man.
He will know the underlying numbers this season are very encouraging (which they never really were under Hughton) and that Potter is doing well with what he has but has been unlucky/let down by poor goalkeeping/let down by poor finishing at vital moments.

 

[Justice]

Tony is also a numbers man.
He will know the underlying numbers this season are very encouraging (which they never really were under Hughton) and that Potter is doing well with what he has but has been unlucky/let down by poor goalkeeping/let down by poor finishing at vital moments.

Scoring some of those chances still doesn’t mean we would of won the games.