The OFFICIAL *** Maggie Funeral Thread ***

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[Bevendean Hillbilly]

Really??

It depends what you do really. As it is I'd say you are 15 love down.

 

[hitony]

It depends what you do really. As it is I'd say you are 15 love down.

I don't, and never have done, replied to post's to score point's, it really is not a game I play.

 

[Hamilton]

Yes she was asked. Back in the mid 90s. At that stage there was a formulation of plans for the death of significant public figures and the concept of 'ceremonial funerals' was discussed. Those identified all were given codenamed linked to bridges (diana was severn bridge, queen mother was Tay bridge and Mrs Thatcher was iron bridge).

The plans would have been validated and tellingly she asked for no flypast.

The plans were kept under review and as [MENTION=189]Wozza[/MENTION] says, the idea was endorsed by Blair and Brown. The scale of procession etc were left undecided but the principals were all there.

But where this has all been politicised is that items pre agreed (and validated by Cameron in 2011) specifically stated no recall or parliament, if the prime minister was travelling that he wouldn't return and that no further Westminster tribute other than the respect debate would be had.

But upon her death all of this was changed at the whim of the conservative leadership (including the codename changing from iron bridge to 'true blue'). Any objection by lib dem or labour would have looked mealy mouthed and petty. However Cameron had to call on milliband for support as initially the speakers office refused the recall and length of debate.

Thanks for this post. Informative.

Can I also point out that the "Not sure if anyone asked her" comment was not part of my original quote.

 

[maltaseagull]

So my 'Thatcher is a vampire' quip which is undeniably in poor taste and second rate at best is "totally sick and probably just as typical of many who share your political views"? Firstly, what are my political views? Do you have any idea at all?

Secondly, my quip is totally sick and worthwhile enough to comment on, yet you let these gems go past without comment?

Yer man [MENTION=12740]pork pie[/MENTION]. Just a cursory glance down his posts reveals his true colours.

On protestors, no-one is lower than them, not even murderers or rapists: "They are simply worse than dog shit"

Commenting on someone hoping that protestors would be arrested: "This. Hopefully AFTER cracking a few of their thick sculls. Hopefully we will see a few die"

On the topic of people dying in an earthquake: "Oh well, shit happens. Hardly anybody for us to cry over is it?"

Any thoughts on what his political views are, or comments you'd like to share on his quotes?

1. Did I miss something in the terms and conditions that I am supposed to read every post in a thread before responding to one?
2. WTF has their posts to do with yours? Please explain why I should reply to them too? (Agree they are as sick as you!)
3. They are probably as extreme as you but in the opposite direction.
4. We probably agree on one thing only, that being we support the Albion. Let's just agree to disagree on the rest.

 

[Leighgull]

I don't, and never have done, replied to post's to score point's, it really is not a game I play.

30 love.

 

[maltaseagull]

I'm an A&E nurse mate.

You do a great job and are not paid enough for it but there are no poor people in the UK when compared to Africa and Asia for example.

How many "poor " people in the UK still smoke for a start?

 

[Flex Your Head]

1. Did I miss something in the terms and conditions that I am supposed to read every post in a thread before responding to one?
2. WTF has their posts to do with yours? Please explain why I should reply to them too? (Agree they are as sick as you!)
3. They are probably as extreme as you but in the opposite direction.
4. We probably agree on one thing only, that being we support the Albion. Let's just agree to disagree on the rest.

It just amuses me when someone reacts in an outraged manner to something they disagree with, yet will choose to ignore or brush over far worse and more extreme comments if they are made by someone who they seemingly have similar views to.

But far more importantly; come on you super seagulls!

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

It just amuses me when someone reacts in an outraged manner to something they disagree with, yet will choose to ignore or brush over far worse and more extreme comments if they are made by someone who they seemingly have similar views to.

Are you new to political debate?

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

there are no poor people in the UK when compared to Africa and Asia for example.

We've never had it so good have we? FFS.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

How many "poor " people in the UK still smoke for a start?

Go on, how many have satellite dishes?

 

[Biscuit]

 

[pork pie]

How sad. Still, her work is done and she can rest in peace now. It was so funny to see the sad "protesters" having police protection from old boys! lol

Did you see the peasants in the mining villages giving it high sixes in their shell suits and cheap trainers?

 

[pork pie]

Look at the state of her in a city but dresses for a walk accross Dartmoor in her "sensible shoes". Says it all really.

 

[Flex Your Head]

Ahhh, it all makes sense now. [MENTION=12740]pork pie[/MENTION] is clearly a spoof account parodying 'outraged of Tunbridge Wells anachronistic Tory bigot' types.
Nice idea, but your material could do with some work.

 

[pork pie]

Ahhh, it all makes sense now. [MENTION=12740]pork pie[/MENTION] is clearly a spoof account parodying 'outraged of Tunbridge Wells anachronistic Tory bigot' types.
Nice idea, but your material could do with some work.

Would people do that then?

So you and a few others who think they are all Citizen Smith and his gang are doing that? Surely nobody can be that stipidly left-wing in the real world?

 

[soistes]

Look at the state of her in a city but dresses for a walk accross Dartmoor in her "sensible shoes". Says it all really.

But you can't see her shoes in the picture

Did you see the peasants in the mining villages giving it high sixes in their shell suits and cheap trainers?

Why are you so obsessed with what people are wearing? What do you think it tells you about them?
How about posting a picture of some of pork pie's outfits, so we can sneer at them?

 

[Krusty]

I guess you couldn't fit the whole quote on the banner...

"I think we have gone through a period when too many children and people have been given to understand “I have a problem, it is the Government's job to cope with it!” or “I have a problem, I will go and get a grant to cope with it!” “I am homeless, the Government must house me!” and so they are casting their problems on society and who is society? There is no such thing! There are individual men and women and there are families and no government can do anything except through people and people look to themselves first. It is our duty to look after ourselves and then also to help look after our neighbour and life is a reciprocal business and people have got the entitlements too much in mind without the obligations, because there is no such thing as an entitlement unless someone has first met an obligation and it is, I think, one of the tragedies in which many of the benefits we give, which were meant to reassure people that if they were sick or ill there was a safety net and there was help, that many of the benefits which were meant to help people who were unfortunate—“It is all right. We joined together and we have these insurance schemes to look after it”. That was the objective, but somehow there are some people who have been manipulating the system and so some of those help and benefits that were meant to say to people: “All right, if you cannot get a job, you shall have a basic standard of living!” but when people come and say: “But what is the point of working? I can get as much on the dole!” You say: “Look” It is not from the dole. It is your neighbour who is supplying it and if you can earn your own living then really you have a duty to do it and you will feel very much better!”
There is also something else I should say to them: “If that does not give you a basic standard, you know, there are ways in which we top up the standard. You can get your housing benefit.”
But it went too far. If children have a problem, it is society that is at fault. There is no such thing as society.[fo 30] There is living tapestry of men and women and people and the beauty of that tapestry and the quality of our lives will depend upon how much each of us is prepared to take responsibility for ourselves and each of us prepared to turn round and help by our own efforts those who are unfortunate. And the worst things we have in life, in my view, are where children who are a great privilege and a trust—they are the fundamental great trust, but they do not ask to come into the world, we bring them into the world, they are a miracle, there is nothing like the miracle of life—we have these little innocents and the worst crime in life is when those children, who would naturally have the right to look to their parents for help, for comfort, not only just for the food and shelter but for the time, for the understanding, turn round and not only is that help not forthcoming, but they get either neglect or worse than that, cruelty.
How do you set about teaching a child religion at school, God is like a father, and she thinks “like someone who has been cruel to them?” It is those children you cannot ... you just have to try to say they can only learn from school or we as their neighbour have to try in some way to compensate. This is why my foremost charity has always been the National Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Children, because over a century ago when it was started, it was hoped that the need for it would dwindle to nothing and over a hundred years later the need for it is greater, because we now realise that the great problems in life are not those of housing and food and standard of living. When we have[fo 31] got all of those, when we have got reasonable housing when you compare us with other countries, when you have got a reasonable standard of living and you have got no-one who is hungry or need be hungry, when you have got an education system that teaches everyone—not as good as we would wish—you are left with what? You are left with the problems of human nature, and a child who has not had what we and many of your readers would regard as their birthright—a good home—it is those that we have to get out and help, and you know, it is not only a question of money as everyone will tell you; not your background in society. It is a question of human nature and for those children it is difficult to say: “You are responsible for your behaviour!” because they just have not had a chance and so I think that is one of the biggest problems and I think it is the greatest sin."

 

[soistes]

I guess you couldn't fit the whole quote on the banner...

"I think we have gone through a period when too many children and people have been given to understand “I have a problem, it is the Government's job to cope with it!” or “I have a problem, I will go and get a grant to cope with it!” “I am homeless, the Government must house me!” and so they are casting their problems on society and who is society? There is no such thing! There are individual men and women and there are families and no government can do anything except through people and people look to themselves first. It is our duty to look after ourselves and then also to help look after our neighbour and life is a reciprocal business and people have got the entitlements too much in mind without the obligations, because there is no such thing as an entitlement unless someone has first met an obligation and it is, I think, one of the tragedies in which many of the benefits we give, which were meant to reassure people that if they were sick or ill there was a safety net and there was help, that many of the benefits which were meant to help people who were unfortunate—“It is all right. We joined together and we have these insurance schemes to look after it”. That was the objective, but somehow there are some people who have been manipulating the system and so some of those help and benefits that were meant to say to people: “All right, if you cannot get a job, you shall have a basic standard of living!” but when people come and say: “But what is the point of working? I can get as much on the dole!” You say: “Look” It is not from the dole. It is your neighbour who is supplying it and if you can earn your own living then really you have a duty to do it and you will feel very much better!”
There is also something else I should say to them: “If that does not give you a basic standard, you know, there are ways in which we top up the standard. You can get your housing benefit.”
But it went too far. If children have a problem, it is society that is at fault. There is no such thing as society.[fo 30] There is living tapestry of men and women and people and the beauty of that tapestry and the quality of our lives will depend upon how much each of us is prepared to take responsibility for ourselves and each of us prepared to turn round and help by our own efforts those who are unfortunate. And the worst things we have in life, in my view, are where children who are a great privilege and a trust—they are the fundamental great trust, but they do not ask to come into the world, we bring them into the world, they are a miracle, there is nothing like the miracle of life—we have these little innocents and the worst crime in life is when those children, who would naturally have the right to look to their parents for help, for comfort, not only just for the food and shelter but for the time, for the understanding, turn round and not only is that help not forthcoming, but they get either neglect or worse than that, cruelty.
How do you set about teaching a child religion at school, God is like a father, and she thinks “like someone who has been cruel to them?” It is those children you cannot ... you just have to try to say they can only learn from school or we as their neighbour have to try in some way to compensate. This is why my foremost charity has always been the National Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Children, because over a century ago when it was started, it was hoped that the need for it would dwindle to nothing and over a hundred years later the need for it is greater, because we now realise that the great problems in life are not those of housing and food and standard of living. When we have[fo 31] got all of those, when we have got reasonable housing when you compare us with other countries, when you have got a reasonable standard of living and you have got no-one who is hungry or need be hungry, when you have got an education system that teaches everyone—not as good as we would wish—you are left with what? You are left with the problems of human nature, and a child who has not had what we and many of your readers would regard as their birthright—a good home—it is those that we have to get out and help, and you know, it is not only a question of money as everyone will tell you; not your background in society. It is a question of human nature and for those children it is difficult to say: “You are responsible for your behaviour!” because they just have not had a chance and so I think that is one of the biggest problems and I think it is the greatest sin."

I prefer the short version

 

[hitony]

30 love.

Ok Sweetie