[Politics] The NSC 'up all night' election night *** OFFICIAL MATCH THREAD ***

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Swindon South. Labour gain from tory, Reform-UK in third. 16% swing from tory to labour. 62% turnout. Bit of a love-in between labour and tory candidates. Very decent.

 

[Bodian]

Swindon South. Labour gain from tory, Retard-UK in third. 16% swing from tory to labour. 62% turnout. Bit of a love-in between labour and tory candidates. Very decent.

Buckland saying that lying is wrong....he's a Tory!

 

[South Stand Bonfire]

Quite nice, sensible and complimentary speeches from Labour (in) and Tory (out) candidates . Pity the rest of House Of Commons isn’t like them.

 

[KZNSeagull]

Buckland was quite a loud voice for autistic people so I hope that there will be some even louder ones in the next parliament.

 

[Pevenseagull]

Shut up Swindon loser twat
Duck off you PRICK

 

[Hugo Rune]

What a c u n t Steve baker f***ing brilliant he has lost his seat

Politics’ loss; skydiving, motorcycling and fast catamaran sailing’s gain!

 

[Weststander]

Yep I think fairly obvious that, the interesting thing is how much less. If it ends up nearer Corbyn’s 2019 result than his 2017 one, I don’t know how our current electoral system is defensible. And I’m something of a sceptic of PR but there may be no alternative if you get a nonsense of 410 seats on 36% - barely more than a third of Britons on a much lower turnout

[FPTP person here].

Almost 2/3’s of the Commons on 39% of the vote is absurd, almost undemocratic. No sympathy for Reform, but for the Green’s etc pretty unfair.

More worryingly, for Labour a fragile mandate going forward. In 97 it was obvious to me Blair would win 3 elections with a fair wind. Remember he was up against people the country would never warm to eg IDS.

Labour will have to work their socks of with serious strategy and policies. No relying on gimmicks like Cool Brittania.

 

[Pevenseagull]

Buckland was quite a loud voice for autistic people so I hope that there will be some even louder ones in the next parliament.

Hopefully help with good work

 

[Bodian]

Another Labour hold in the NE - Reform second again.

 

[Dr Q]

Oh bloody hell Sadiq Khan on the Beeb. Cannot stand that c***!

 

[Hugo Rune]

Oh bloody hell Sadiq Khan on the Beeb. Cannot stand that c***!

Why?

 

[Tim Over Whelmed]

Low turnout so far

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Right, I'm just going to emphasise something again. Neither I, the Electoral Reform Society, or the Lib Dems, advocate for PR in anything like the form that the Reform bloke was bleating about earlier. But this isn't the thread for that.

Anyway, I look at France, and its system that everybody thought made it impossible for the nutcases to get in. And over the last decade or more that vote gets higher and higher to the point where suddenly it feels inevitable that the Far Right will win and will not just be the third largest party or whatever, but will have the keys to the whole country handed over to them.

Trying to keep the nutters out with a system where huge swathes of people think it doesn't matter who they vote for is not a safe or long term solution.

Yeah, sorry for baiting you. But Reform will support any alternative to FPTP that will give them more seats. Which they would (give them more seats). Because that's what more fairness delivers.

Only if you think the system you want to replace FPTP with will not affect the GE outcome, would not make a fairer change, would you be correct that changing FPTP would not help Farage.

QED.

 

[Sid and the Sharknados]

[FPTP person here].

Almost 2/3’s of the Commons on 39% of the vote is absurd, almost undemocratic. No sympathy for Reform, but for the Green’s etc pretty unfair.

More worryingly, for Labour a fragile mandate going forward. In 97 it was obvious to me Blair would win 3 elections with a fair wind. Remember he was up against people the country would never warm to eg IDS.

Labour will have to work their socks of with serious strategy and policies. No relying on gimmicks like Cool Brittania.

I think it depends on how the Conservatives react to the defeat (which I'm still not allowing myself to think is guaranteed).

As we've seen in the previous couple of elections, you can get away with a lot if most people don't see the opposition as a plausible government.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

Buckland saying that lying is wrong....he's a Tory!

Sounds like he's a good man.

 

[Tom Hark Preston Park]

It's got 410-131 written all over it

 

[Pevenseagull]

What a c u n t Steve baker f***ing brilliant he has lost his seat

He lost money investing in gold when the value of gold increased.

True story.


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[Bodian]

Sounds like he's a good man.

He did, didn't he. These are the 'good Tories' - if we'd had more of them things wouldn't be in such a state.

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

It's got 410-131 written all over it

How do you feel about the evaporation of SNP support?

 

[Harry Wilson's tackle]

He did, didn't he. These are the 'good Tories' - if we'd had more of them things wouldn't be in such a state.

Hopefully the worm will turn.