The new Labour leader,must be ?

[Leekbrookgull]

Oh please make Harman new leader of the Labour party,if that does not finnish them off nothing will !

 

[Stoo82]

But she is a Toff!

 

[User removed 4]

Charismatic, photogenic David Miliband.

 

[The Spanish]

she gives me the f***ing horn.

 

[Dick Knights Mumm]

I think she is ok. But it will be Milliband (senior) won't it ?

 

[murraymints4brighton]

I think she is ok. But it will be Milliband (senior) won't it ?

MUST be, unless they go for an appointment ala Cameron/Clegg who were both in political obscurity when they were asked to lead their respective parties.

 

[The Spanish]

Charismatic, photogenic David Miliband.

A poor mans Phil Cool.

 

[User removed 4]

A poor mans Phil Cool.

 

[strings]

I would be very surprised if it wern't David Milliband. The Americans will organise for the ballot to be fixed, because Hilary Clinton fancies him.

 

[cunning fergus]

Yeah, good old David Miliband, a true blue Labour man.

The progeny of wealthy uber-Marxist parents who like the idea of social equality but still had enough influence with their socialist mates to get their dunce of a son got into Oxford following his disappointing A-level results (3 Bs and a D).

With an acceptance bar set so low I don't quite get this blather about integrity of the academic tradition we are lead to believe exists within Oxford.

On a recent visit to Warsaw David announced that he was proud of his Polish blood (quite what that is given that part of Europe's history I dont know). Its a shame then that no one has asked him how he feels about his Grandfather then given that he fought against Polish forces with the Red Army in the twenties.

Still apparently he is no more of a dunce than the 2nd Viscount Stansgate and he went to Oxford too.

Dont get me wrong Cameron et al were there too, probably through nods and winks, but then they dont harp on about social injustice like Labour........wankers the lot of 'em.

 

[Don Quixote]

It will be David Milliband and he will win the next election. Although I think his brother is better.

EWWW looks at the new home secetary. She is the most hiddeous piece of absolute shit I have ever seen! That is worse than Harman!

 

[Igor Gurinovich?]

Sadly, for the labour party, is there really a candidate that can galvanise what must be a demoralised party and capture the public, in particular dissaffected Libdem voters? from the early list of candidates, i cant see one.. certainly not Miliband in my view.

 

[countrygull]

Easy way to make a few quid on Milliband I feel: last I saw 4/6.

 

[Gwylan]

Yeah, good old David Miliband, a true blue Labour man.

The progeny of wealthy uber-Marxist parents who like the idea of social equality but still had enough influence with their socialist mates to get their dunce of a son got into Oxford following his disappointing A-level results (3 Bs and a D).

With an acceptance bar set so low I don't quite get this blather about integrity of the academic tradition we are lead to believe exists within Oxford.

On a recent visit to Warsaw David announced that he was proud of his Polish blood (quite what that is given that part of Europe's history I dont know). Its a shame then that no one has asked him how he feels about his Grandfather then given that he fought against Polish forces with the Red Army in the twenties.

Still apparently he is no more of a dunce than the 2nd Viscount Stansgate and he went to Oxford too.

Dont get me wrong Cameron et al were there too, probably through nods and winks, but then they dont harp on about social injustice like Labour........wankers the lot of 'em.

What are you on about? Ralph Miliband was scarcely wealthy, he came to Britain as a refugee and worked as a university lecturer - not a profession renowned for its lavish pay. I don't know about "uber(sic)-Marxist, whatever that is. He was certainly a Marxist - and wrote some very boring books on the subject which were on my uni reading list - but I don't see the relevance of that to his sons.

And A Levels grades have little to do with getting into Oxford. I had a girlfriend who was Oxford-educated but had far lower grades than DM obtained. There's an Oxford entrance exam, pass it and you're in, regardless of your A Levels.

I'm not saying that DM is some kind of political colossus but he's scarcely a dunce and he's certainly not from some kind of privileged background.

 

[Tricky Dicky]

The obvious choice at the moment would be Milliband (senior). Junior would be an outside bet, but whilst I actually quite like him, I don't think he has the authority about him that one would need. With Harman & Johnston out of the running, you are then talking about people like Andy Burnham but I don't know enough about him.

 

[cunning fergus]

What are you on about? Ralph Miliband was scarcely wealthy, he came to Britain as a refugee and worked as a university lecturer - not a profession renowned for its lavish pay. I don't know about "uber(sic)-Marxist, whatever that is. He was certainly a Marxist - and wrote some very boring books on the subject which were on my uni reading list - but I don't see the relevance of that to his sons.

And A Levels grades have little to do with getting into Oxford. I had a girlfriend who was Oxford-educated but had far lower grades than DM obtained. There's an Oxford entrance exam, pass it and you're in, regardless of your A Levels.

I'm not saying that DM is some kind of political colossus but he's scarcely a dunce and he's certainly not from some kind of privileged background.

Well that's the trouble with the new socialists they dont know what poor is do they?

You're right Adolf was a refugee and in fairness he did a 3 year stint with the RN during the war. Unlike Jack Straw's old man who spent it hiding under the stairs.

But then he wasn't much of a 'worker' was he? Unless you think being a student then lecturer at the LSE is hard graft, and I doubt he was on minimum wage there or whilst swanning around North American Universities receiving honorary awards and roles (i.e. Boston, Chicago, Bradeis and New York) in the 70s' and 80s'.

Plenty of pals in the know too eh, so it was hardly a normal upbringing for David and Edward when politicans are popping round your house every 5 minutes for a cup of tea and a biscuit?

Yeah right and of course all of those contacts had absolutely no bearing on his f***wit sons getting into Oxford. I bet you genuinely believe that too eh?

So having been given this lift up by his old man's contacts David left uni and has never worked a day since having concentrated on making his way in the political world.......just like Cameron in fact.

But there's more as somehow David secures the rock solid labour constituency of South Shields........like he knows what life is like there? But I suppose when hard core working class fellas like Shaun Woodward are getting constituencies like St Helens it says a lot about the Labour elite's view on giving their core support MPs they can connect with.

Not priviliged, try saying that without laughing!

 

[Kalimantan Gull]

Well that's the trouble with the new socialists they dont know what poor is do they?

You're right Adolf was a refugee and in fairness he did a 3 year stint with the RN during the war. Unlike Jack Straw's old man who spent it hiding under the stairs.

But then he wasn't much of a 'worker' was he? Unless you think being a student then lecturer at the LSE is hard graft, and I doubt he was on minimum wage there or whilst swanning around North American Universities receiving honorary awards and roles (i.e. Boston, Chicago, Bradeis and New York) in the 70s' and 80s'.

Plenty of pals in the know too eh, so it was hardly a normal upbringing for David and Edward when politicans are popping round your house every 5 minutes for a cup of tea and a biscuit?

Yeah right and of course all of those contacts had absolutely no bearing on his f***wit sons getting into Oxford. I bet you genuinely believe that too eh?

So having been given this lift up by his old man's contacts David left uni and has never worked a day since having concentrated on making his way in the political world.......just like Cameron in fact.

But there's more as somehow David secures the rock solid labour constituency of South Shields........like he knows what life is like there? But I suppose when hard core working class fellas like Shaun Woodward are getting constituencies like St Helens it says a lot about the Labour elite's view on giving their core support MPs they can connect with.

Not priviliged, try saying that without laughing!

Not quite sure what your point is, going on about Miliband's father, but if its that he was privileged and thus should be a Tory, it speaks more for the man that he has turned away from his upbringing to work for the under-privileged in society.

Now he stands to be Labour leader which is an excellent choice, Labour picking the right man unlike the Tories who went through three complete failures when in opposition. It is interesting to see the Labour party holding together well despite losing, unlike the Tories who tore themselves to pieces in 1997.

 

[Gwylan]

Well that's the trouble with the new socialists they dont know what poor is do they?

You're right Adolf was a refugee and in fairness he did a 3 year stint with the RN during the war. Unlike Jack Straw's old man who spent it hiding under the stairs.

But then he wasn't much of a 'worker' was he? Unless you think being a student then lecturer at the LSE is hard graft, and I doubt he was on minimum wage there or whilst swanning around North American Universities receiving honorary awards and roles (i.e. Boston, Chicago, Bradeis and New York) in the 70s' and 80s'.

Plenty of pals in the know too eh, so it was hardly a normal upbringing for David and Edward when politicans are popping round your house every 5 minutes for a cup of tea and a biscuit?

Yeah right and of course all of those contacts had absolutely no bearing on his f***wit sons getting into Oxford. I bet you genuinely believe that too eh?

So having been given this lift up by his old man's contacts David left uni and has never worked a day since having concentrated on making his way in the political world.......just like Cameron in fact.

But there's more as somehow David secures the rock solid labour constituency of South Shields........like he knows what life is like there? But I suppose when hard core working class fellas like Shaun Woodward are getting constituencies like St Helens it says a lot about the Labour elite's view on giving their core support MPs they can connect with.

Not priviliged, try saying that without laughing!

Being privileged and having good contacts are too different things. The Milibands were not wealthy by any stretch of the imagination. And while their old man might have plenty of contacts among a Marxist clique, I'm not sure that would be enough to get them into Oxford or make headway in the Labour party.

And it's not true to say that Cameron hasn't worked in his life either: he worked for a shipping company and worked for Carlton TV.

However, I agree with your point about high-flying party hacks being parachuted into safe seats. There's a marked dearth of workers in the ranks of the new MPs.

 

[brakespear]

Yvette Cooper

 

[seagullsoverlincoln]

Personally i'd prefer Alan Johnson,down to earth and seems less slimy than most politicians