The new Labour leader,must be ?

[The Wizard]

Boris Johnson

 

[BensGrandad]

The best man to pull labour round to be a decent opposition would be Ken Livingstone if he was eligible and available.

 

[Gwylan]

The best man to pull labour round to be a decent opposition would be Ken Livingstone if he was eligible and available.

That's a good call ... the trouble is that, like the Ken on the Tory side, he's popular with voters but strongly disliked by his own party.

 

[SUIYHP]

If Milliband becomes leader, I don't think I would like labour all that much, I really don't like him. Plus I think he's a bit rash and dangerous to the country

 

[cunning fergus]

Not quite sure what your point is, going on about Miliband's father, but if its that he was privileged and thus should be a Tory, it speaks more for the man that he has turned away from his upbringing to work for the under-privileged in society.

Now he stands to be Labour leader which is an excellent choice, Labour picking the right man unlike the Tories who went through three complete failures when in opposition. It is interesting to see the Labour party holding together well despite losing, unlike the Tories who tore themselves to pieces in 1997.

Well I mentioned Vata Adolf Miliband as he is an vital element in the careers of the Miliband siblings. Ignoring Adolf is like ignoring Viscount Stansgate's influence and patronage for his politically gifted child or grandchild ploughing their idependent furrows in life via the Labour Party. Just like the Kinnock dynasty........sure they didn't any help of mummy and daddy they did it all on their lonesomes. I would have more respect for them if they had turned their backs on sucessful careers, as oppose to becoming even more wealthy by taking the path of least resistance.

Priviledge is not just money its about the doors that are opened by Mummy and Daddy and the Labour Party are full to the gunnels with them. No wonder they waffle on about social injustice they practice it and always have. From Dennis Healy packing his missus off to a private hospital or Diane Abbot's son going to a private school.

Miliband is merely the brown stinking wasteproduct that has been curled out for Labour voters in South Shields, not because he understands their needs (how could he) but because he has schmoozed his way around other like minded privileged socialists in London. Just like Ed Balls, and w*nkstain Shaun Woodward.

In that way he is like Cameron and fellow Toff Clegg, but one definitely couldn't say the same of Alan Johnson.

 

[cunning fergus]

Being privileged and having good contacts are too different things. The Milibands were not wealthy by any stretch of the imagination. And while their old man might have plenty of contacts among a Marxist clique, I'm not sure that would be enough to get them into Oxford or make headway in the Labour party.

And it's not true to say that Cameron hasn't worked in his life either: he worked for a shipping company and worked for Carlton TV.

However, I agree with your point about high-flying party hacks being parachuted into safe seats. There's a marked dearth of workers in the ranks of the new MPs.

You are wrong Adolf was wealthy and on his death his home was worth a cool 1m plus........that's just the home not the cash in the bank or stocks and shares. David and Edward own another 1m in property interests which is not bad from someone who's not done a stroke all his life.

Millionaire socialists you couldn't make it up........his marxist old man must be spinning in his platinum coffin.

My old man was a roof tiler and he worked all his life as did his mates. Some of them own their council houses but whatever they are all poor, the Milibands are not they continue to be wealthy.

 

[timbha]

glad no-one's mentioned Balls.

What about Harty's mate Caplin for a sensational comeback?

 

[Scotty Mac]

i really like milliband for some reason - if he got the gig i can definitely see myself voting for labour in the next election

 

[Gwylan]

You are wrong Adolf was wealthy and on his death his home was worth a cool 1m plus........that's just the home not the cash in the bank or stocks and shares. David and Edward own another 1m in property interests which is not bad from someone who's not done a stroke all his life.

Millionaire socialists you couldn't make it up........his marxist old man must be spinning in his platinum coffin.

My old man was a roof tiler and he worked all his life as did his mates. Some of them own their council houses but whatever they are all poor, the Milibands are not they continue to be wealthy.

I don't know where you get your information from but Ralph Miliband's father was a leather worker; biog here.
Ralph Miliband : Biography

I'm certainly not saying that RM lived in abject poverty but you do appear to labouring under some strange belief. I suspect there's some latent anti-semitism there - they're Jews, so of course, they've got money salted away.

To have a house worth a million quid in London is not difficult, they probably bought it in the 50s for peanuts. I had a friend at uni, whose father was a plumber and who owned a 4-bed terraced house in Fulham - that house was sold for much more than a £1m, yet was a working class house in a working class area.

There are plenty of things to criticise the Miliband brothers for but I really don't think that digs about their background are justified. Shaun Woodward, Ed Balls, certainly but Milibands? Nah

 

[cunning fergus]

I don't know where you get your information from but Ralph Miliband's father was a leather worker; biog here.
Ralph Miliband : Biography

I'm certainly not saying that RM lived in abject poverty but you do appear to labouring under some strange belief. I suspect there's some latent anti-semitism there - they're Jews, so of course, they've got money salted away.

To have a house worth a million quid in London is not difficult, they probably bought it in the 50s for peanuts. I had a friend at uni, whose father was a plumber and who owned a 4-bed terraced house in Fulham - that house was sold for much more than a £1m, yet was a working class house in a working class area.

There are plenty of things to criticise the Miliband brothers for but I really don't think that digs about their background are justified. Shaun Woodward, Ed Balls, certainly but Milibands? Nah

This changes nothing, I don't care about Granvata Sam Miliband (who incidently fought against the Poles) I am talking about his son Adolf.

I note Adolf's first 'job' after arriving as a refugee from Nazi Europe was as a looter though...............maybe that's how he got the money to become a full time student!

Interesting Diary note from Adolf about the English too. What warm sentiments he had for a country that had provided him refuge and was struggling to fight Germany on its own.

How sad that you choose to suggest that I am a racist because I have the temerity to criticise the Milibands. That says a lot more about you than it does me.

Fact is that they are wealthy, and I consider their careers to have been greased by family connections. You don't think that is priviledge I do.

I dont know how or when they got their money, and to be honest I don't care so long as its bona fide. The FACT is that they are wealthy, £2m in property alone suggests there is more in the bank.

Still with supporters like you I'm sure millionaire socialist David can bridge the gap between his constituents on the breadline a long standing Labour voters like my Dad and his mates.

 

[cuthbert]

Personally i'd prefer Alan Johnson,down to earth and seems less slimy than most politicians

Unfortunately he was born in 1950 and so will be 64 or 65yo at the time of the next election. He has also stated he's not interested.

 

[London Calling]

Intersesting that Clegg's Grandfather was an emigree from the Bolsheviks.

So for the Millibands there is some unfinished up againgst the wall business to sort out.

for there grand daddy sake.