[Politics] The Labour Government

[Bold Seagull]

Dyson, living in Singapore, has a massive spread in The Times, today.

You’d think he would just be able to suck up any tax rises…

 

[LamieRobertson]

Dyson, living in Singapore, has a massive spread in The Times, today.

I know

 

[Springal]

What’s a lot? You might be able to answer your own question

a quick google….but you’d need to check for accuracy and date

In England, 14% of farms are wholly tenanted, while 31% are mixed tenure, and 54% are owner occupied. Tenant farmers manage about a third of all farmland in England.


T

Well that’s interesting then isn’t it !

 

[beorhthelm]

Which they can easily bring in those family members as partners, directors, shareholders of the business while the farmer is still alive. Why would a farmer expect his family to all work the farm for most of their lives with no assets or share of assets at all until the farmer dies?

All that needs to happen is a change in mindset of farmers that if a family is involved, start succession planning early like every other family business has to.

can they do this easily? i'd suggest its not easy, or raised other issues, otherwise it would be the common practice (and maybe it is, just no one is saying so). the IHT exceptions for farms (and businesses, overlooked in this) have been put in place long ago for reasons. seems those reasons are ignored or dont matter now.

 

[fly high]

What’s a lot? You might be able to answer your own question

a quick google….but you’d need to check for accuracy and date

In England, 14% of farms are wholly tenanted, while 31% are mixed tenure, and 54% are owner occupied. Tenant farmers manage about a third of all farmland in England.


T

So what happens to the tenant & mixed tenure farmers when the land is sold off to pay IHT? Doubt many if any can afford to pay off a loan to buy them.

 

[Is it PotG?]

 

[dsr-burnley]

Depends on whether you value the skills that a Uni education offers?

If you value working and living in well design buildings, driving over bridges that are safe, being kept in good health by doctors etc. then shouldn’t everyone contribute towards having those vital skills?

Equally we all contribute to the building and maintenance of roads and transport infrastructure even if we don’t personally use them, because society and the economy needs them.

Yes, a valid point. Perhaps the best thing would be to go back to as it used to be, where perhaps 10% of the population is subsidised to go to university to learn these useful trades while the rest of the population can choose to pay or choose to stay at home as they wish. Some university courses are necessary for public health and safety, but by no means all.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

Dyson, living in Singapore, has a massive spread in The Times, today.

Few things worse than expats telling the UK how to run it's affairs.

 

[Mellor 3 Ward 4]

Few things worse than expats telling the UK how to run it's affairs.

 

[Bold Seagull]

Yes, a valid point. Perhaps the best thing would be to go back to as it used to be, where perhaps 10% of the population is subsidised to go to university to learn these useful trades while the rest of the population can choose to pay or choose to stay at home as they wish. Some university courses are necessary for public health and safety, but by no means all.

I think that is reasonable, and aligns as an answer to my other post to you.

 

[Is it PotG?]

Yes, a valid point. Perhaps the best thing would be to go back to as it used to be, where perhaps 10% of the population is subsidised to go to university to learn these useful trades while the rest of the population can choose to pay or choose to stay at home as they wish. Some university courses are necessary for public health and safety, but by no means all.

Some might then use that wonderful system to get a top qualification then sod off overseas to work.

 

[CheeseRolls]

Yes, a valid point. Perhaps the best thing would be to go back to as it used to be, where perhaps 10% of the population is subsidised to go to university to learn these useful trades while the rest of the population can choose to pay or choose to stay at home as they wish. Some university courses are necessary for public health and safety, but by no means all.

This is starting to sound a bit Pol Pot for my liking. Has the Khmer Rouge got a foothold in Burnley?

 

[BLOCK F]

Glib right wing NSC posters is my hope

I’d go for smug, righteous NSC lefties.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

I’d go for smug, righteous NSC lefties.

One of us will be disappointed

 

[dsr-burnley]

This is starting to sound a bit Pol Pot for my liking. Has the Khmer Rouge got a foothold in Burnley?

Pol Pot? For suggesting there should be a limit to how much education the state should pay for? The alternative is to carry on subsidising students for as long as they want, regardless of the value of their education, until they reach retirement age.

 

[Hiheidi]

Pol Pot? For suggesting there should be a limit to how much education the state should pay for? The alternative is to carry on subsidising students for as long as they want, regardless of the value of their education, until they reach retirement age.

What about benefits?

 

[abc]

The gov justification for hitting small businesses with increased taxes and other costs is that they 'need to help out with more money for the nhs'. Quite why this is businesse's responsibility more than anyone else is a mystery but learning today that nhs doctors are earning £200/hour overtime (4 X their normal rate) or £200 000 year just in overtime payments, is surely another kick in the teeth to everyone struggling to run an SME? Even though running a business doesn't count as 'working' of course.

 

[chip]

Pol Pot? For suggesting there should be a limit to how much education the state should pay for? The alternative is to carry on subsidising students for as long as they want, regardless of the value of their education, until they reach retirement age.

I think you have put your finger on one problem, education is seen by many as a commodity or process. The value is for the individual which we hope then extends to wider society. In France, all employees are entitled to paid education, much is vocational but it does include learning other languages. Education and learning have to be part of a knowledge economy unless our aspiration is to be data loggers. Learning and improving our minds is always a good thing? People do it at different stages of their life, unless they have some association with Watford. Running educational establishments as businesses may not be such a good thing, there's a 20-year lag in the process, you'll never match supply to needs.

But, in reality you are right of course. There have to be some limits. We never seem to discuss the world we would like as something to aspire to, just how we may or may not make this one slightly less shitty.

 

[The Clamp]

I think you have put your finger on one problem, education is seen by many as a commodity or process. The value is for the individual which we hope then extends to wider society. In France, all employees are entitled to paid education, much is vocational but it does include learning other languages. Education and learning have to be part of a knowledge economy unless our aspiration is to be data loggers. Learning and improving our minds is always a good thing? People do it at different stages of their life, unless they have some association with Watford. Running educational establishments as businesses may not be such a good thing, there's a 20-year lag in the process, you'll never match supply to needs.

But, in reality you are right of course. There have to be some limits. We never seem to discuss the world we would like as something to aspire to, just how we may or may not make this one slightly less shitty.

We are subjects, not citizens and therefore it doesn’t do for us to become educated and question things.

 

[CheeseRolls]

Pol Pot? For suggesting there should be a limit to how much education the state should pay for? The alternative is to carry on subsidising students for as long as they want, regardless of the value of their education, until they reach retirement age.

You are sounding a little touchy there comrade, it must be all this dangerous education talk.

Where can I get my print at home certificate in common sense?