[Politics] The Labour Government

[nicko31]

Yup, they're all the bloody same.

I disagree

Labour are not perfect but they are at least doing what they believe is best for the country and are acting in good faith.

The post Brexit iteration of the Tories main objective was to reward themselves and their cronies from the public coffers. We are about to see a more extreme version of this business model exercised in the US

 

[BadFish]

I disagree

Labour are not perfect but they are at least doing what they believe is best for the country and are acting in good faith.

The post Brexit iteration of the Tories main objective was to reward themselves and their cronies from the public coffers. We are about to see a more extreme version of this business model exercised in the US

The pre Brexit iteration' main objective was to make ordinary working people pay for the 2008 financial crisis. Ensuring that no one responsible for it should pay.

As you say, they are certainly not the same. But the Tories will be happy if this narrative is swallowed by enough people.

I am sure they will continue to reward their loyal supporters (as long as they are rich of course).

Go blue team!!

 

[dsr-burnley]

I disagree

Labour are not perfect but they are at least doing what they believe is best for the country and are acting in good faith.

The post Brexit iteration of the Tories main objective was to reward themselves and their cronies from the public coffers. We are about to see a more extreme version of this business model exercised in the US

The Chagos Islands scandal isn't about acting in good faith. All they are trying to do with that is shuffle the responsibility for the appalling treatment of the Chagossian people onto Mauritius, at great expense to the UK, so that when someone says "what about the human rights of the displaced Chagossians", the government can say "mowt to do with us".

They think they are being anti-colonialist by transferring ownership of the islands to someone else. But there is nothing anti-colonialist about transferring the ownership of land from one distant realm to another, without so much as considering the wishes of the rightful occupants. It's pure age of empire.

 

[Rdodge30]

Labour are not perfect but they are at least doing what they believe is best for the country and are acting in good faith.

Either they have acted in bad faith after their lengthy courting of the business sector pre election or they genuinely didn’t know what they were going to do once in power

They can not be any worse than the previous government, on that we agree- but we are setting the bar incredibly low there and to be honest, I’m not convinced by this Government yet.

 

[Machiavelli]

I think where we differ might be in the constant plucking random figures as a promise in order to get elected.

To then later say 'Ah well, we got nearly 2/3 of the way' is simply taking the mickey.

Any research or consultation would have shown this was pie in the sky.

Nah. They've set out some missions, and are in the process of setting out some milestones to evaluate progress. The whole point is to try to restore trust in politics, by not over-promising and under-delivering (recall migration in the tens of thousands, levelling-up, 40 new hospitals, etc). They're happy to be judged on that. I suspect they'll fall short on some of those missions, but fair play for setting things out clearly.

 

[Weststander]

Newsnight just now … Caroline Lucas was highly critical of Labour’s first months. Wasted, no vision, poor messaging, the tax rises barely touched the sides unlike a wealth tax, and she briefly mentioned why no interest in rejoining the EU when the 170 majority gives so much scope to do things.

Also expressed a fear that a wasted term would leave the door open to the right should Farage/Badenoch do a deal.