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[Politics] The Labour Government
- Thread starter Super Steve Earle
- Start date
This Government’s PR is slowly being flushed down the toilet
Growing unease in NHS about 'broken' messaging, BBC told https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx2k0449747o
Growing unease in NHS about 'broken' messaging, BBC told https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx2k0449747o
Justice Secretary unveils plan to shut women’s prisons amid overcrowding crisis
‘Around two-thirds did not commit a violent crime yet are sent to prisons desperate for places’www.independent.co.uk
Justice secretary Shabana Mahmood unveils plan to shut women’s prisons amid overcrowding crisis
"When it came to women in prison Ms Mahmood said it was “too rarely acknowledged” that most women in prison are victims themselves."
If we're going to think like this, does the same not go for male criminals? How many of them have been put onto their paths by ill treatment at some point? Most I would suspect.
Nicola Drinkwater from the charity Women in Prison, said: “[This] announcement from the lord chancellor is long-awaited and finally signals a recognition that women do not belong in prison"
And men do??!! Either they are suggesting that women should receive different types of sentences from men for the same offence or that nobody should go to prison. I suspect it's the former.
Furthermore, most men in prison have a history of poverty, childhood abuse, mental health etc. All a reason why rehabilitation should be a priority for those incarcerated. No doubt this applies to women prisoners as well.
However, the concept of treating people differently because of their gender when they commit the same crime is absurd. Everybody, regardless of gender, creed or ethnicity, should be sentenced according to the crime they have been found guilty of committing and the unique circumstances involved.
Here’s a great idea Mr Free Gear
Benefit claimants should have to look for work - PM https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c5y8g5z67lzo
Benefit claimants should have to look for work - PM https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c5y8g5z67lzo
They already do, and have been required to so - and provide evidence - for decades.
48% of welfare recipients are in paid employment, but are eligible for top-up benefits due to poverty wages.
And £15 billion annually is paid in Housing Benefit due to high rents.
When will we hear about a crackdown on employers and landlords who are milking the welfare state?
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nevergoagain
Well-known member
All for trying to rehab prisoners who are willing to engage, of either gender of course, but the above is correct there's a back story to virtually every single prisoner. What it shouldn't be though is a reason to keep offenders on the streets, lets remember they have broken the law. Take criminals off the street to protect the majority first and foremost. I would be more than happy to pay extra tax for more prisons & police to actually investigate crimes instead of just giving out a reference number and expecting insurance to cough up.
Starmer: I took £20,000 towards accommodation so son could sit exams undisturbed
Sir Keir Starmer suggested he took £20,000 in donations towards accommodation from Labour peer Lord Alli so that his teenage son would not be disturbed while revising for his exams.The Prime Minister told BBC Radio 4’s Today programme: “My boy, 16, was in the middle of his GCSEs. I made him a promise, a promise that he would be able to get to his school, do his exams, without being disturbed.
“We have lots of journalists outside our house where we live and I’m not complaining about that, that’s fine. But if you’re a 16-year-old trying to do your GCSEs and it’s your one chance in life...
“I promised him we would move somewhere, get out of the house and go somewhere where he could be peacefully studying. Somebody then offered me accommodation where we could do that. I took that up and it was the right thing to do.”
dsr-burnley
Well-known member
- Aug 15, 2014
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Most of those incarcerated (men as well as women) have already gone down the "rehabilitation" line and it has failed. As a rule, only the most violent are jailed for the first conviction. The majority have been given non-custodial sentences, some of them many times over.
Case in point. A woman shoplifter collected her (approx) 450th conviction last week, and her sentence was to be banned from all but three shops in the area. It is not easy (especially for a woman, I believe) to get a custodial sentence.
nevergoagain
Well-known member
Or Katie Price as another example, how that woman remains free is a mystery.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
I guess my lack of ….. after my post quite rightly got you thinking i thought Sausage man had come up with a great idea
My days, the list continues to grow, one wonders what else this charlatan has up his sleeve, shamelessly i bet he’s looking for a moment to bury some bad news
Well regretfully one often follows the other
I had an appointment with a senior consultant at a Sussex hospital yesterday. He said many at the hospital were fed up hearing that NHS was on its knees. He said they were giving completly wrong impression to publc and whilst not perfect they give a very good service.
Did you ask them how many days private work they do ?
No. No reason to. He was just trying to tell me he thought the negativity about NHS was over the top.
Ike and Tina Burner
Well-known member
- Mar 22, 2019
- 607
That is quite a different reality from the one portrayed by the justice secretary. I don't see why women in jail are any more victims than men in jail. They've both gone past the same fairly high threshold for a prison sentence.
