- Oct 17, 2008
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This is exactly what happened to be fair.
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[Politics] The Labour Government
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But your original thread was an extremely thinly veiled vehicle for yours, and others, anti-Labour opinion. Please do not try and suggest otherwise.
- Jul 10, 2003
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It didn't take you the full 5 years to make up your mind then
Quite. It’s laughable he’s playing Mr Innocent.It didn't take you the full 5 years to make up your mind then
- Oct 20, 2022
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I did nothing of the sort.
I started a thread to specifically discuss the announcements in the King’s Speech and to discuss the first 100 days of the new Government implementation of those announcements. Your thread was a light hearted daily commentary how people were being effected personally by the new Government - there was no objective discussion about policy - it was largely tongue in cheek and all about dog walking and what people were having for dinner.
The threads were merged because your thread then started moving into the ground that was already being covered by my Labour first 100 days thread which up until that point had been a positive and well informed political discussion by people genuinely interested in giving the new Labour Government a chance to repair some of the damage done to our previous government- especially to public services, public sector workers and infrastructure.
I was not happy to merge the threads, I could have suggested your thread merge with mine rather than the other way round but I was being magnamimous to you in suggesting my thread be merged into yours. In retrospect it did the discussion I had going on the King’s Speech and First 100 Days absolutely no favours. But it was pointless having two threads running that were now beginning to cover the same ground.
I didn’t “hijack” your thread - you actually hijacked mine by trying to turn your thread into a serious political discussion about Labour’s King’s Speech that I had already started elsewhere. The mods added all the posts I had made on my original thread onto this one so it looked like I had posted more than anyone else on your thread.
Once the threads were merged, I lost interest in this thread tbh because it just turned into yet another binfest with the same anti-labour people dominating it - I have only posted about 20 posts to it since they were merged a few months ago - about the same number of posts (or even less) than you have made to this thread..
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Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
Who is still £30k behind Simon Case.
Cabinet Office slips out delayed data on government’s highest earners
Spreadsheet reveals £20k pay rise for HS2 chief and shows COO Alex Chisholm now earns more than cabinet secretary Simon Case
www.civilserviceworld.com
Super Steve Earle
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That's bullshit, but don't let truth or accuracy get in the way of your long distance, don't even live here tubthumping.
He’s a civil servant, not an adviser.Who is still £30k behind Simon Case.
Cabinet Office slips out delayed data on government’s highest earners
Spreadsheet reveals £20k pay rise for HS2 chief and shows COO Alex Chisholm now earns more than cabinet secretary Simon Case
Even the ‘whataboutary’ makes no sense
- Oct 20, 2022
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Seriously, you wonder why I get pissed off with these politics threads - you seem incapable of having a grown up and objective discussion..
This has just turned into another Labour Government bashing thread now and attacking anyone who dares see the Government in a positive light with no balance whatsoever - so time to put this thread on ignore too..
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
Sue Gray is not an ‘advisor’, she is Chief of Staff.
What’s the going rate for Chief of Staff in the UK, nowadays?
nevergoagain
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Didn't you post to me "Go away you boring person"?, that's not very grown up.
Hahaha! Stop clutching at straws and playing with words. You made a direct comparison to Civil Service roles, threw in some whataboutry and are just plain wrong.
She’s now a SPAD and you know she is
@WATFORD zero seemed to think Sue Gray was a civil servant too.Who is still £30k behind Simon Case.
Cabinet Office slips out delayed data on government’s highest earners
Spreadsheet reveals £20k pay rise for HS2 chief and shows COO Alex Chisholm now earns more than cabinet secretary Simon Case
She hasn't been for 18 months now.
Your comparison is about as valid as comparing Sue Gray's salary to that of a Premier League footballer.
Nah. People get pissed off on political threads when "their team" does stupid, shit or cruel things and gets called out about it.
I have 25 years of post reports that prove that beyond doubt.
All this government needs to do is stop doing stupid, shit and cruel things. Easy peasy lemon squeezy.
armchairclubber
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Surely it's now time to merge this thread with the Labour Party Meltdown incoming. Difficult to keep monitoring things with split discussion.
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
It was the same amount without the conditions the Tory party attached to it such as driver only trains.That must have been one hell of a negotiation, bravo
- Oct 20, 2022
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Please don’t speak for me.
Clearly we all have a political agenda here rather than an impartial one as do you. My original thread was a positive and sensible discussion that the mods merged with this one - yet I get accused of hijacking this thread with a presumably too pro-Labour stance. And then that gets liked by someone with a right wing perspective.
I am not pissed off because “my team” has done “something stupid” (I suggested that there were better ways to manage fuel bills and taking away support from people that need it was not the way to do it) - I get pissed off because of the personal attacks people resort to when they disagree with someone else’s political views and the complete obsession recently with the negative to the exclusion of all the good things this Government is trying to do.
You said yourself on my original thread, a few days after the election, that one of the first things the new Government could do was make a deal that would end the doctors strike.
The first day in power, Starmer spoke to the BMA and within weeks has settled strike action that has been going on for several years.
Yet nothing from you to acknowledge that?
Close the door on the way out
Machiavelli
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Yes, the economy has had negligible growth over the past 14 years. The last figures released were flat. Public debt is the highest for about 50 years, leaving little room for manoeuvre, coupled with a recent spike in interest rates which we've been promised would come down for a while now, but we'll find out later today that they remain at 5% due to sticky inflation.
But despite that, it's the public realm that's in a far worse state and will take an age to turn around: the NHS, education, justice system, local councils, and so on.
There's very little recognition of this on this thread, yet this is what's significant.
Amended for you