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For once, I agree!
alfredmizen
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- Mar 11, 2015
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Let he who is without sin cast the first stone ........
What are you actually for?
He's for highlighting a party leader and his colleague that SUPPORTED the IRA Nibble. Sorry to [MENTION=31796]alfredmizen[/MENTION] for putting words in your mouth
It's just that it appears he simply trawls threads looking for arguments and opportunities to insult people. He just seems to be a bit of a useless article.
When you lot get hold of a thread you really area gaggle of vicious old queens. It's both compelling and revolting to witness.
alfredmizen
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- Mar 11, 2015
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Essentially Corbyn's stance was that he did not believe British troops in NI was going to secure peace, that it created more trouble and that the treatment of IRA prisoners radicalised and antagonised terrorists into action. I agree. This does not make him a sympathiser, it makes him a rather sensible chap. He believed in a unified Ireland. That does not make him an IRA sympathiser.
He has consistently condemned the IRA's violent acts and met with representatives in parliament. It really is a huge leap to conclude he is an IRA sympathiser.
He has consistently condemned the IRA's violent acts and met with representatives in parliament. It really is a huge leap to conclude he is an IRA sympathiser.
Neville's Breakfast
Well-known member
That's a reasonable argument and of course none of us know for sure. There is (or was) though a strand of student extreme left sympathy for the IRA. When I was at university in the 1980s Sinn Fein/IRA were invited by the student union to speak. I was no fan of the rugby club but was pleased when they turned up and cleared the murderers off the premises of our peaceful academic place of learning. It really was a quite disgraceful invitation to people who were murdering our young soldiers. If the student union were serious about peace in Ireland they would have invited the SDLP. In these days of 'safe spaces' it is quite extraordinary that our union invited these people to campus.
Now into this mix walks JC and friends. Given their clear links to this brand of politics, their public pro IRA pronouncements, their opposition to the peace talks, their other past associations with terrorist organizations and their general trendy endorsement of whichever Che Guevara type is on their radar I think you can perhaps forgive people's sceptism.
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What a depressing view. Luckily, throughout history others haven't shared your defeatism.
Buzzer
Languidly Clinical
- Oct 1, 2006
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He opposed the Anglo-Irish agreement, he invited terrorists into the House of Commons days after the Brighton bombing, he has always refused to refer to Republicans as terrorists, he was part of an editorial board that praised the Brighton bombers. For six years running between 86 and 92 he spoke at the Wolf Tone meetings alongside McDonnell where IRA terrorists were routinely honoured and praised. At no time has he ever specifically condemned the IRA - he has always fudged his remarks and qualified them.
He has never once tried to contact Loyalist terrorists, he never once contacted nor was asked to contact the people responsible for the Anglo-Irish Agreement, he never tried to affiliate with the SDLP and the Labour Party have had strong ties with them for decades - in fact he quite often was seen at Troops Out rallies where the SDLP were denounced as sell-outs. He believes in a united Ireland and he believes that the armed struggle for it was legitimate.
Here is a snippet of an interview he gave just last year where he is asked 5 times to condemn IRA terrorism. After the 5th time he hung up. http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p02z3x45
These are not the words and actions of a man whose over-riding concern is peace and an end to violence. He's an IRA sympathiser.
To be fair this post has made me want to do some more research on the matter before I comment again. There's a fair chunk of that Info I wasn't aware of.
Hampster Gull
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- Dec 22, 2010
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You get peace through dialogue
Green Cross Code Man
Wunt be druv
But much of his dialogue appears to have been badly founded and poorly timed to say the least.
alfredmizen
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- Mar 11, 2015
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He has NEVER condemned the IRA or any of their acts , and refused to do so as recently as last year.
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/n...anscript-of-his-nolan-interview-31430884.html
ROSM
Well-known member
Usually by talking to all sides. Not favouring one over the other
London Irish
Well-known member
Think my hangover from saturday is just about wearing off. Attila did a good turn at the victory party though it was too packed for me to hear it all. Onward to a million-member Labour Party 
Kalimantan Gull
Well-known member
Think my hangover from saturday is just about wearing off. Attila did a good turn at the victory party though it was too packed for me to hear it all. Onward to a million-member Labour Party
Well I just left, so they'll have to replace me first
Brian Fantana
Well-known member
Think my hangover from saturday is just about wearing off. Attila did a good turn at the victory party though it was too packed for me to hear it all. Onward to a million-member Labour Party
Genuine question: out of an electorate of c40 million, why is a 1 million member Labour Party something of note?
Ernest
Stupid IDIOT
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