Really, well your 2053 comment which included "this weekend schmoozing with billionaires" was a headline taken from the Mirror was it not.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/nigel-farage-slammed-skipping-remembrance-9257219
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Really, well your 2053 comment which included "this weekend schmoozing with billionaires" was a headline taken from the Mirror was it not.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/nigel-farage-slammed-skipping-remembrance-9257219
Green Cross Code Man
Wunt be druv
The six pictures of Corbyn in the sun may well not be him doing a jig, but if he is not dancing, then what on earth is his body doing?
beorhthelm
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walking. theres plenty enough to mock Corbyn for without making stuff up.
Green Cross Code Man
Wunt be druv
I'm not mocking him, but he has a peculiar walk!
deletebeepbeepbeep
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The six pictures of Corbyn in the sun may well not be him doing a jig, but if he is not dancing, then what on earth is his body doing?
The images are photoshopped to crop out the vet he was talking too.
W.C.
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The six pictures of Corbyn in the sun may well not be him doing a jig, but if he is not dancing, then what on earth is his body doing?
If anything was disrespectful surrounding remembrance sunday then this was it. It's the kind of thing you might expect someone to mock up on twitter for a laugh. But no, a 'news'paper did it.
Don't really get what you are trying to say GCCM? People look silly in photos sometimes. Especially when you crop out what or who the person is interacting with.
Green Cross Code Man
Wunt be druv
Not trying to make any particular point. I don't think there's a story there but I don't agree he's just walking. If he is then he needs some help.
Green Cross Code Man
Wunt be druv
Well, they have been cropped which is not quite the same thing. Anyway, I've already said the paper in my opinion was WRONG I don't agree with their motives at all. But Corbyn walks weird.
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The six pictures of Corbyn in the sun may well not be him doing a jig, but if he is not dancing, then what on earth is his body doing?
The Sun and some of the other gutter press really do abuse the privilege of press freedom we have in this country when you see absolute bollocks like this. Same sort of thing they did with Neil Kinnock where they only ever posted pics of him yawning or similar unnecessarily undignified pictures. It really is truly shameful.
Green Cross Code Man
Wunt be druv
Yep. I remember him stumbling on Brighton beach. Those pictures haunted him most unfairly. That was the first election I voted in. Although I did not vote for his party, after the election, I wrote to him and expressed my disgust at the way the media portrayed him. I received a lovely, gracious letter back.
Ernest
Stupid IDIOT
Ed Miliband and his bacon sandwich the same, when you see similar things done with Maggie May you'll know she has upset Murdoch.
It's a two-way street... the Bullingdon boys picture was used mercilessly to pillory Cameron and Osborne.
Ernest
Stupid IDIOT
Did Ed not eat that sandwich then?
Ernest
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No, it really isn't a two way street at all. Those pictures were POSED for, not quite the same as taking a series of automatic photos doing an every day task and then publishing the most awkward looking stills.
Not quite truel. It appeared a couple of times and then newspapers were forbidden to reproduce it on copyright grounds. So, it was scarcely used 'mercilessly'
deletebeepbeepbeep
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Good speech by McDonnell
McDonnell strongly affirmed Labour’s commitment to fiscal discipline, saying there is “nothing ‘progressive’ about running up excessive deficit”. Pointing out that the government has missed its previous fiscal targets, he urged Philip Hammond, the chancellor, to adopt something similar to the “fiscal credibility rule” he committed Labour to in March.
"Those on the left have a duty to be scrupulously honest about the economic tasks in front of us.
There are no easy options.
There is no proverbial magic money tree.
We can only deliver the high-quality public services that our communities want and need when we have a high-quality economy that can pay for them.
That means an absolute and unbreakable commitment to fiscal discipline on the part of any future Labour government.
There is nothing “left-wing” about running an excessive deficit.
There is nothing “progressive” about running up excessive debts.
A government has an absolute responsibility to manage the money it is entrusted with by the people it serves."
Last week the Institute for Fiscal Studies published a report saying, among other things, that almost all Treasury targets set since 1997 have been missed. The IFS said there was a lot to be said for flexible fiscal targets, and the Labour target qualifies as an example because it says the government would have to show at every budget how it would balance the current account budget over five years.
He praised Mark Carney, governor of the Bank of England.
"I want to pay tribute here to the Governor and to those at the Bank.
When the Chancellor was nowhere to be seen, the Prime Minister resigned, and assorted Tory Brexiteers simply walked away from the mess they helped create.
It was the actions of the Governor and the Bank of England that were there to offer the necessary support to our economy.
And yet their reward has been noises off from the Tory Party elite about the alleged failings of the Bank."
He said Labour was committed to protecting the Bank’s independence.
"At a time of economic uncertainty, not just here but across the world, we would trifle with the Bank’s independence at our peril.
It is a hard-won economic asset for this country.
So I want to repeat a point I have made already: under Labour, the Bank of England’s operational independence will be sacrosanct.
It is up to the government of the day to give the Bank its mandate.
But it is up to the Bank, and the Bank alone, to achieve it ...
The public servants who run the bank are drawn from the very top of the global talent pool. We will not allow a cabinet drawn from the dregs of a Tory government to place the blame for their failures on the bank."
Conservatives who have questioned Bank of England independence include William Hague, Michael Gove and Jacob Rees-Mogg. McDonnell seems to working on the basis that defending the Bank robustly will help to boost Labour’s economic credibility.
McDonnell claimed that George Osborne’s austerity policies failed.
"Philip Hammond will have to admit that the Conservatives have failed in every task they set themselves.
They failed to bring the deficit under control. It was supposed to have been eliminated by 2015.
They failed to bring down the government’s debt. It’s now 1.7 trillion.
They failed to restore wages, they failed on productivity, they failed on investment.
They failed because at every step of the way there was a Conservative Chancellor who put rhetoric ahead of the hard economic facts.
He chose austerity, when he could have chosen investment ...
Worst of all, it is an economy where after all the sacrifices of spending cuts and stagnant wages and zero hour contracts - the government debt burden continues to rise and the government deficit remains stubbornly high.
There is no other way to say it. Those sacrifices were made in vain.
The Tories want you to forget George Osborne but I want to you to remember what he did in detail.
Because he not only failed on every target he set himself – he plunged Britain’s hard pressed communities into such a state of neglect that they reached for the option of a break with Europe.
Labour accepts the referendum result as the voice of the majority and we must embrace the enormous opportunities to reshape our country that Brexit has opened for us.
In that way we can speak again to those who were left behind and offer a positive, ambitious vision instead of leaving the field open to divisive Trump-style politics.
This means we must not try to re-fight the referendum or push for a second vote and if Article 50 needs to be triggered in parliament Labour will not seek to block or delay it.
We are insisting on full, tariff-free access to the Single Market for our businesses because this is the best way to protect jobs and living standards here.
This must include provision for our financial services sector, as part of a deal for the whole economy."
McDonnell strongly affirmed Labour’s commitment to fiscal discipline, saying there is “nothing ‘progressive’ about running up excessive deficit”. Pointing out that the government has missed its previous fiscal targets, he urged Philip Hammond, the chancellor, to adopt something similar to the “fiscal credibility rule” he committed Labour to in March.
"Those on the left have a duty to be scrupulously honest about the economic tasks in front of us.
There are no easy options.
There is no proverbial magic money tree.
We can only deliver the high-quality public services that our communities want and need when we have a high-quality economy that can pay for them.
That means an absolute and unbreakable commitment to fiscal discipline on the part of any future Labour government.
There is nothing “left-wing” about running an excessive deficit.
There is nothing “progressive” about running up excessive debts.
A government has an absolute responsibility to manage the money it is entrusted with by the people it serves."
Last week the Institute for Fiscal Studies published a report saying, among other things, that almost all Treasury targets set since 1997 have been missed. The IFS said there was a lot to be said for flexible fiscal targets, and the Labour target qualifies as an example because it says the government would have to show at every budget how it would balance the current account budget over five years.
He praised Mark Carney, governor of the Bank of England.
"I want to pay tribute here to the Governor and to those at the Bank.
When the Chancellor was nowhere to be seen, the Prime Minister resigned, and assorted Tory Brexiteers simply walked away from the mess they helped create.
It was the actions of the Governor and the Bank of England that were there to offer the necessary support to our economy.
And yet their reward has been noises off from the Tory Party elite about the alleged failings of the Bank."
He said Labour was committed to protecting the Bank’s independence.
"At a time of economic uncertainty, not just here but across the world, we would trifle with the Bank’s independence at our peril.
It is a hard-won economic asset for this country.
So I want to repeat a point I have made already: under Labour, the Bank of England’s operational independence will be sacrosanct.
It is up to the government of the day to give the Bank its mandate.
But it is up to the Bank, and the Bank alone, to achieve it ...
The public servants who run the bank are drawn from the very top of the global talent pool. We will not allow a cabinet drawn from the dregs of a Tory government to place the blame for their failures on the bank."
Conservatives who have questioned Bank of England independence include William Hague, Michael Gove and Jacob Rees-Mogg. McDonnell seems to working on the basis that defending the Bank robustly will help to boost Labour’s economic credibility.
McDonnell claimed that George Osborne’s austerity policies failed.
"Philip Hammond will have to admit that the Conservatives have failed in every task they set themselves.
They failed to bring the deficit under control. It was supposed to have been eliminated by 2015.
They failed to bring down the government’s debt. It’s now 1.7 trillion.
They failed to restore wages, they failed on productivity, they failed on investment.
They failed because at every step of the way there was a Conservative Chancellor who put rhetoric ahead of the hard economic facts.
He chose austerity, when he could have chosen investment ...
Worst of all, it is an economy where after all the sacrifices of spending cuts and stagnant wages and zero hour contracts - the government debt burden continues to rise and the government deficit remains stubbornly high.
There is no other way to say it. Those sacrifices were made in vain.
The Tories want you to forget George Osborne but I want to you to remember what he did in detail.
Because he not only failed on every target he set himself – he plunged Britain’s hard pressed communities into such a state of neglect that they reached for the option of a break with Europe.
Labour accepts the referendum result as the voice of the majority and we must embrace the enormous opportunities to reshape our country that Brexit has opened for us.
In that way we can speak again to those who were left behind and offer a positive, ambitious vision instead of leaving the field open to divisive Trump-style politics.
This means we must not try to re-fight the referendum or push for a second vote and if Article 50 needs to be triggered in parliament Labour will not seek to block or delay it.
We are insisting on full, tariff-free access to the Single Market for our businesses because this is the best way to protect jobs and living standards here.
This must include provision for our financial services sector, as part of a deal for the whole economy."
beorhthelm
A. Virgo, Football Genius
- Jul 21, 2003
- 36,015
its good if you like your speeches full of criticism about the others with no actual remedy. bottom line is that Labour isn't going to cut anything and claim to want to invest which cost money, so they have to either borrow more but say they wont, or tax a lot more which they avoid admitting.
deletebeepbeepbeep
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- May 12, 2009
- 21,798
Well it has set out very clearly that Labours policy is to remain part of the single market in the interests of our economy. The tories response to McDonnell's statement is as follows:
"...what is truly astonishing is that John McDonnell completely failed to mention immigration, or control of our borders, in his vision of post-Brexit Britain.
This is yet more evidence of how out of touch Labour are with the values of working people in our country.
Only the Conservative party can deliver the best possible deal as we leave the EU - and that must mean controls on the number of people that come to Britain."
Rather than debate what is best for our economy they would rather bring this back to the divisive argument over immigration.