The HORRIFIC underevaluation of our players.

[bhawoddy]

It's a bizarre thing, sell Noone for £750k but look to replace with the likes of Boyd @ £3m!

If that happened then that would be very bizzare.

 

[bhawoddy]

Is seriously hacking me off! We are not a "tin pot club" at a crappy athletics track, nor are we a "big club" in comparison to some in this division. Either way, the stupidity of some people on here claiming that Craig Noone can go for 500-750k and that Lewis Dunk is worth 1.5 million just beggars belief!

We have a winger who quite literally PULVERISED Liverpool and people are exclaiming "yes, no end product, sell him to our Championship rivals for nearly 15x less Arsenal paid for Oxcube-Chambercleaner" and "Dunk, u21 international, flog him to Everton for the same price as Adam Virgo".

Luckily, at this stage, they are rumours. However I have the horrible feeling this transfer window that, fueled by things I have heard off NSC, we are actually going to sell the aforementioned players for this price. Im sorry, but if we do I might as well give up now. Being ripped off for Bennett was bad enough, but to sell Noone for half the price would be mental. Who on earth could replace him for that price? If these deals DO go through and as yet they are nothing more than specualtion (thankfully). Our "we are not a selling club anymore" attitude can sail away.

Ah yes - the power of the NSC forum. Gus will read all these posts and decide that dunk and noone should go for 750K a piece.

How did you know we had such influence over Mr Poyet

 

[bhawoddy]

I also said similar on the DUNK thread yesterday. We should not start being ridiculous and think some players are worth huge amounts but we need to be able to say, No we aint selling.

Noone is a difficult one. Realistically he is probably worth 700k - 1M. But bloody hell that does not mean we HAVE to sell him. I would not want him to leave for that. On the other hand if someone wants him bad enough and wants to offer 1.5 plus then I would say that is good business.

Dunk is a different story and should not go for less than 2M in my opinion. If anyone can locate a CB with that amount of potential in U21s for less than that, I am all ears.

I can - Grant Hall. I think he could be decent.

 

[bhawoddy]

I have also said that a few times this season mainly about Dunk. However, overated or not the valuation of 500k and 1.5 million does not reflect potential and ability in this current market. And to pick up on another point made by a previous poster, I am not saying we should hold out for a ridiculous price. Realistically we should be looking to get 2.5 - 3 million for Dunk and 1.5 - 2 million for Noone. These are players in one of the most competitive, quality divisions in world football.

I am alos posting this thread with a complete and utter disgust at the derisory offer of 400k for Noone from Cardiff. How dare they offer 400k! When players like Rhodes (albeit it a striker) are being priced at 5 million in League One. You might just be able to pick up a journeyman, lower league player for that some but bfor christ sake. What an awfull offer!

Wait till you buy your first house!

 

[murraymints4brighton]

Ah yes - the power of the NSC forum. Gus will read all these posts and decide that dunk and noone should go for 750K a piece.

How did you know we had such influence over Mr Poyet

What? OFF NSC, not ON. And what the f*** has buying a house got to do with selling Noone to Cardiff? Why do people feel the need to pick apart threads on here to find an external meaning that you can have a go at when the thread is quite OBVIOUSLY about the sale of two players at a low price. Deary me. NSC has gone down the metaphorical pan.

 

[seagullsovergrimsby]

We are no longer a League 1 club , the transfer values should reflect that

 

[Mutts Nuts]

If that happened then that would be very bizzare.

You do not like the fact that other peoples ideas and opinions can differ from yours do you

 

[bhawoddy]

You do not like the fact that other peoples ideas and opinions can differ from yours do you

LOL - I fail to see how my comment of "if that happened then that would be very bizarre" leads to yours, but oh well.

anyway, seeing as you mentioned it, i happen to think the forum throws up many different view points and some excellent discussion points. Im more than happy to have a debate about differing viewpoints which are regularly not the same as mine.

And my comment actually meant that if we were to sell a player for say 750k and buy another replacement for 3M who IMO wasnt as good then "That would be very bizarre" Its called agreeing with the poster.

 

[bhawoddy]

What? OFF NSC, not ON. And what the f*** has buying a house got to do with selling Noone to Cardiff? Why do people feel the need to pick apart threads on here to find an external meaning that you can have a go at when the thread is quite OBVIOUSLY about the sale of two players at a low price. Deary me. NSC has gone down the metaphorical pan.

Try and work it out murray! If you need a little help, its the bit i HIGHLIGHTED that my comments refer to. And i can assure you its very relevant!!!!

Oh and BTW it wasnt meant as a dig just happens to be relevant!

 

[Chicken Runner61]

So why did Arsenal pay Southampton £12m for Oxlade Chamberlain who had only played a total of just 36 games in a single division one season when he was sold? Hardly proven at a higher level is it?

Dunks playing well in the Championship, young and highly sort after (especially with the new rules regarding home ground players in a team / squad) been called up for England under 21's and looks to have a very bright future.

I would say a minimum of £5m before we even start to think about it.

Coz of his Dad and Uncle probably and to stop one of the others getting him. If you also take a look at his football history he has been pushed by England coaches for years. Wenger also was robbed at a time when he had to sign a youngster - having sold Faberge he had to splash the cash to say he had done something

 

[Don Quixote]

Our players are worth what other clubs are prepared to pay for them!

 

[BUTTERBALL]

If the club want me to negotiate for them I will happily offer my services for free because unless we received at least 2m for Noone and 5m for Dunk (inc. add on's) then I would not sell. Bennett at 1.5m was criminal.

 

[piersa]

Forster Caskey is one i would very much like to keep hold of. He has more potential than the other 2.

 

[Weststander]

Noone & Dunk and in fact any of our player that have not already proved themselves at a higher level are never going to get the money we value them at if a big club comes in for them. There are better overseas players with experience you can sign for the same money or on a free for that as do most premiership clubs these days.

I'm not saying let them go just that you are overvaluing them a bit at this stage.

But neither had Walcott or Oxlade. Let's hope we keep our best players, but should they depart, charge the earth. TB and the club now have the financial muscle not to pushed around by average clubs like Cardiff.

 

[PILTDOWN MAN]

Our players are worth what other clubs are prepared to pay for them!

No they're not, they're worth what we are prepared to sell them for.

 

[Chicken Runner61]

But neither had Walcott or Oxlade. Let's hope we keep our best players, but should they depart, charge the earth. TB and the club now have the financial muscle not to pushed around by average clubs like Cardiff.

I think that Arsenal paid over the top for Oxlade because they had to as they had just sold Fabergas - Walcott is not looking the player they hoped he would be either. Cardiff won't pay £1.5M for anyone unless they reach the prem.

We might not need to sell but I don't think we have the financial clout you think we have. TB might have put £100m in a stadium but he won't necessarily put £50k per week in a few players wage packets.

 

[Acker79]

No they're not, they're worth what we are prepared to sell them for.

Bit of both really. We might be willing to sell Dunk for 2m, but if someone will offer 3m we'd take that.

 

[Guy Fawkes]

Our players are worth what other clubs are prepared to pay for them!

Not true, It's what the selling club is prepared to accept for them and if their valuation isn't met, they don't sell.

They don't think that the highest bid we will get for Noone is £400k so we should accept it, you have to consider what effect it would have on our team if we did sell and how easy it would be to replace them - whats the point in selling a star player cheaply if you then have to break the bank to sign a worthy replacement.

We have turned down bids in the past, Everton offered £2.5m for Zamora but we turned it down and kept him for another season before finally selling him to Tottenham as the board thought we would be better off keeping him for another year which would help match ticket and merchandise sales.

We shouldn't just sell for the sake of it but because the offer is right for us.

 

[Guy Fawkes]

Bit of both really. We might be willing to sell Dunk for 2m, but if someone will offer 3m we'd take that.

But our fans would be saying sell him for 500k so the buying club is more likely to bid lower than £2m

 

[Discodoktor]

I want 4 mill plus add ons for dunk and 2 mill for noone. Unless we start getting championship promotion players for less than that. Not spend 250k on the likes of Harley or spend it on loans. Come on not another Bennett giveaway