The good, the bad and the Brighton - Croydon Advertiser

[Hillian1]

It's far too good for you as well. The current Palace squad is better than anything that Palace or Brighton have ever had in the past.

There's not much more we can do about the attendances at the moment; hence why we're investing in the stadium.

When you say "we're" do you mean the yanks?

 

[ThePaddy]

Yawn. Last thing I would ever do is post on a Palace forum but I suppose all you saddos are welcome and all that. Well done for establishing yourselves in the PL.

But when you get your new stadium and fill it with 40k every home game, will it be a case of not being JCL's? Just the fact that you had a shyt stadium and the potential was always there and Palace could ACTUALLY fill a 100k stadium?

Cheers mate.

We're just about selling out Selhurst at the minute, but there are some games where seats are available. If we manage to get a new 40,000 stadium, it'll have loads of JCL's just like the Amex. I don't buy the whole "returning fan" thing; if you won't watch your team because they play in a shit stadium then you're a plastic as far as I'm concerned. Hopefully they learn the words to the songs quickly, it'd be a shame if the media stopped saying we have the best atmosphere in the country.

When you say "we're" do you mean the yanks?

I mean the board. It just so happens that the board will be 36% American or whatever.

 

[Hillian1]

Cheers mate.

We're just about selling out Selhurst at the minute, but there are some games where seats are available. If we manage to get a new 40,000 stadium, it'll have loads of JCL's just like the Amex. I don't buy the whole "returning fan" thing; if you won't watch your team because they play in a shit stadium then you're a plastic as far as I'm concerned. Hopefully they learn the words to the songs quickly, it'd be a shame if the media stopped saying we have the best atmosphere in the country.



I mean the board. It just so happens that the board will be 36% American or whatever.

But wouldn't that be cheating?

I'm sure that I've read that somewhere.

 

[WhingForPresident]

Cheers mate.

We're just about selling out Selhurst at the minute, but there are some games where seats are available. If we manage to get a new 40,000 stadium, it'll have loads of JCL's just like the Amex. I don't buy the whole "returning fan" thing; if you won't watch your team because they play in a shit stadium then you're a plastic as far as I'm concerned. Hopefully they learn the words to the songs quickly, it'd be a shame if the media stopped saying we have the best atmosphere in the country.

What about the 10,000 fans that have 'returned' to Selhurst since you got promoted? If you won't watch your team unless they're in the Premier League, you're plastic as far as I'm concerned.

 

[ThePaddy]

What about the 10,000 fans that have 'returned' to Selhurst since you got promoted? If you won't watch your team unless they're in the Premier League, you're plastic as far as I'm concerned.

We've got a fair few plastics nowadays, yeah. People that aren't diehard Palace but that want to watch top quality football at reasonable prices. Obviously you hope that they catch the bug and introduce their kids to the club etc. but that doesn't make them any less plastic than the bods in the Amex.

But wouldn't that be cheating?

I'm sure that I've read that somewhere.

I've never really bought the whole Bloom/Brighton cheating thing. If you've got people who want to invest in your club with a relatively low risk of things going tits up, you'd be mad not to take the cash.

 

[Buzzer]

We've got a fair few plastics nowadays, yeah. People that aren't diehard Palace but that want to watch top quality football at reasonable prices. Obviously you hope that they catch the bug and introduce their kids to the club etc. but that doesn't make them any less plastic than the bods in the Amex.

Someone who buys a season ticket 4 years on the trot for a mid-table Championship side like Brighton is no less a glory fan than someone who doesn't buy a ticket for Palace in the same league but waits until they reach the Premier League?

What you say just can't be true because our newcomers are buying tickets for a situation where your newcomers turned their noses up. Tell me, what alternate universe do you live in where this statement is true?

 

[Stat Brother]

There's not much more we can do about the attendances at the moment; hence why we're investing in the stadium.

Does that not sound even a teeny weeny bit familiar?

You really need to look up the word hypocrite and also, lets face it, find someone to help you understand the big words.

 

[Mackenzie]

Not sure how you can have plastics at a second division team? I mean you're not really in it for the glamour are you.

The same thing applies to palace to an extent, you wouldn't brag about supporting them either.

 

[Red'n'Blue]

The person who wrote the "article" is an idiot. Ignore.

 

[ThePaddy]

Someone who buys a season ticket 4 years on the trot for a mid-table Championship side like Brighton is no less a glory fan than someone who doesn't buy a ticket for Palace in the same league but waits until they reach the Premier League?

What you say just can't be true because our newcomers are buying tickets for a situation where your newcomers turned their noses up. Tell me, what alternate universe do you live in where this statement is true?

Midtable? There was me thinking you're still unbeaten and enjoying a very strong start to the season. Last year your football was utter shite from what I've heard (I don't pay much attention to the lower leagues these days) and you lost a lot of fans because you weren't entertaining enough. If you had started this season in a similar fashion I wonder if you wouldn't have lost even more.

Let's not forget that your surge in fans came because you moved to a lovely new stadium at the same time as you achieved promotion. Why does your promotion entitle you to attract new fans but ours doesn't?

 

[ThePaddy]

Does that not sound even a teeny weeny bit familiar?

You really need to look up the word hypocrite and also, lets face it, find someone to help you understand the big words.

Yes, it does. I don't think I'm being hypocritical at all here by suggesting that both teams have had a large influx of plastic fans.

 

[nwgull]

Midtable? There was me thinking you're still unbeaten and enjoying a very strong start to the season. Last year your football was utter shite from what I've heard (I don't pay much attention to the lower leagues these days) and you lost a lot of fans because you weren't entertaining enough. If you had started this season in a similar fashion I wonder if you wouldn't have lost even more.

Nearly all season tickets - all 20K of them - were bought before a ball was kicked back in August, on the back of an absolutely shite season and with expectations well below what we've actually achieved. A long way from plastic.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

Yes, it does. I don't think I'm being hypocritical at all here by suggesting that both teams have had a large influx of plastic fans.

How do you fit 21K into an 8K stadium?
I will say it again - we had about 4K season ticket holders at Withdean. The remaining 3K were floating fans who attended at least one or two matches every season. Many of the 21K sth that we have now, did go to Withdean, so they are returning fans. We took 28K fans to Cardiff in 2004, which your lot conveniently forget.

 

[El Presidente]

I'm guessing they don't want the Brighton/Bloomton parallel with potentially an American owner rather than an Australian one.

Palace have rather come unstuck with one-man owners, think Simon Jordan and another guy before him in the late 1990's whose name escapes me.

Mark Goldberg?

and of course cuddly Ron Noades too!

 

[El Presidente]

I don't know how the Fab 4 have acquired their wealth, but I do wonder whether internet betting is the healthiest source of revenue stream, not just for Albion, but Brentford as well and a couple of other teams. A major internet betting fixing scandal and Greg Dyke and others at the FA would be left with little choice but to examine whether clubs financed by owners who might potentially gain from "fixed" games is the way forward.

If you are concerned about internet bettting companies owning football clubs, then surely Stoke City must be prime candidates, as they are owned by Bet365.

Bloom has made some of his money from gambling, but sold his betting online company a long time ago.

To be fair to your owners, they've not had to put their hands in the pockets to the same extent as TB, and Palace to a large extend are self financing now that they are in the PL.

 

[El Presidente]

Yes, it does. I don't think I'm being hypocritical at all here by suggesting that both teams have had a large influx of plastic fans.

Are they plastic, or do they want more in their lives than reminiscing about a 0-0 draw away to Doncaster on a Tuesday night, or freezing their bollocks off watching a succession of long balls aimlessly delivered when watching a home fixture against Oldham?

I suspect us Old Timers are out of touch with the modern fan, whose attention span and expectations are different to when we started going 40 years ago.

 

[8ace]

If you are concerned about internet bettting companies owning football clubs, then surely Stoke City must be prime candidates, as they are owned by Bet365.

Bloom has made some of his money from gambling, but sold his betting online company a long time ago.

To be fair to your owners, they've not had to put their hands in the pockets to the same extent as TB, and Palace to a large extend are self financing now that they are in the PL.

http://www.starlizard.com is owned by Uncle Tony

 

[Se20]

How do you fit 21K into an 8K stadium?
I will say it again - we had about 4K season ticket holders at Withdean. The remaining 3K were floating fans who attended at least one or two matches every season. Many of the 21K sth that we have now, did go to Withdean, so they are returning fans. We took 28K fans to Cardiff in 2004, which your lot conveniently forget.

The bottom line is you only started getting capacity crowds in your promotion season, with the dangled carrot of a shiny new stadium as an incentive.

 

[Thunder Bolt]

The bottom line is you only started getting capacity crowds in your promotion season, with the dangled carrot of a shiny new stadium as an incentive.

Wrong. We had capacity crowds in the first few years at Withdean because it only held 5K. We then had to apply and fight for planning permission to put in another 3K, because it sold out. There were 4K sths with 800 for away fans, and the rest were by ballot. We had to send a chq with a sae, for a ticket or to have the cheque returned.

 

[Return of the Rev]

Wrong. We had capacity crowds in the first few years at Withdean because it only held 5K. We then had to apply and fight for planning permission to put in another 3K, because it sold out. There were 4K sths with 800 for away fans, and the rest were by ballot. We had to send a chq with a sae, for a ticket or to have the cheque returned.

When did it only hold 5k?