I beg your pardon - I didn't realise we'd had a massive swing to remain.
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[Politics] The General Election Thread
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Mo Gosfield
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- Aug 11, 2010
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Farage has ' engineered ' this result. It was a clever plan. Look at the number of results where the difference between Tory and Labour votes was LESS than the Brexit Party vote. ( and those votes came directly from Labour )
Thunder Bolt
Silly old bat
Lewes - Caufield's majority was over 7,000 in 2017, now only just over 2,000. Labour Kate Chappell got 3K votes. Thanks Labour. You weren't prepared to help people to vote tactically so you've been punished.
A second devasting blow in just three days.
All the evidence suggests that we have. But fptp screws the rest of us over.
fruitnveg
Well-known member
A glorious morning. It could only have been bettered by that harpy, Jess Phillips losing her seat as well. I guess you can't have it all your own way.
Gove absolutely lashing on the pro Jewish rhetoric. I still think Corbyn has lost this election every bit as much as Boris has won it.
Fair play. I know a fair few on here really wanted this result and you must be happy. Who wouldn’t be if their team won.
I’ll rail against Brexit til the end as I don’t believe it was a democratic vote but this? It was fair and procedure was followed. The people spoke.
I worry with Johnson in charge but I appreciate your post.
darkwolf666
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Sorry, I’m not getting you. Where’s the evidence of this swing to Remain, when staunch Labour seats, who were Leavers in the referendum, have now gone Tory... and Leave?
FPTP has simply endorsed a binary vote in 2016 that wasn't FPTP. It seems that to some people, both systems are 'undemocratic' and results shouldn't be accepted; however, they can't have it both ways.
BadFish
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- Oct 19, 2003
- 18,188
I agree, now it is up to the government to step up and get it sorted. I hope the Tory cheerleaders will hold them to account if they **** it up.Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear - it looks like the people really do want Brexit, in spite of the wrath and scorn of the self-styled more intelligent elite. Well, now we've had 'the people's vote' (because obviously it wasn't people who voted to leave in 2016......) - and guess what? The people still want to leave the EU.
Hopefully those people wasting police time and costing the taxpayers money camping out round Westminster waving their silly blue flags will go away now.
Please God, once we're safely out, can Labour sort itself out so I can go back to voting for them again.
Time to get shit done Boris! the pressure (hopefully) is on (don't walk away like you did last time you won the Brexit vote).
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Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear - it looks like the people really do want Brexit, in spite of the wrath and scorn of the self-styled more intelligent elite. Well, now we've had 'the people's vote' (because obviously it wasn't people who voted to leave in 2016......
Hopefully those people wasting police time and costing the taxpayers money camping out round Westminster waving their silly blue flags will go away now.
Please God, once we're safely out, can Labour sort itself out so I can go back to voting for them again.
I totally get your elation, given your political affinities... but sarcasm? Why?
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Icy Gull
Back on the rollercoaster
- Jul 5, 2003
- 72,015
We have had a massive swing to leave from remainers because we voted to leave and we have had three years of obstruction. EVERYONE has had enough of this shit. Not sure that Leave would have won if we knew then what we know now. Anyway we voted to leave however narrow the majority, let’s get on with it.
darkwolf666
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Maybe, just maybe Labour knew what they were doing putting the unelectable Corbyn up as the public face of Labour, thus ensuring a Tory win, and leaving the Tories to sort out their own generated mess of Brexit.
If the doom and gloom predictions of the Remain camp are correct, then by the time we get to next General Election Labour (with a new man and softer approach} should be able to clean up!
Who knows!
If the doom and gloom predictions of the Remain camp are correct, then by the time we get to next General Election Labour (with a new man and softer approach} should be able to clean up!
Who knows!
Tories 45% lab/lib/snp/grn/pc 53%
darkwolf666
Well-known member
Because that’s what classless winners do...
It's obvious now that there is a mandate to "Get Brexit Done". Strong and Stable was a terrible motto and pretty much the opposite of what transpired. As a remainer I accept that I lost the referendum, though I do not accept that it was fought fairly. Here, though, the British people have doubled down on it, especially in working class areas, and it is time to get the withdrawal agreement through and move on.
I'm not exactly delighted by the prospect of a Johnson governament but I would have been just as scared of a Corbyn government. It is time for that loser to move on and take his bully boys and anti-semites with him. Time for Labour to move back to the centre left, ready to pick the pieces back up if and when Boris screws it up. But, for now, it is also time for some stability and certainty. The markets like the result and they are rarely wrong.
So, while we've not seen eye to eye, enjoy your victory, because the country now has a clear direction. It may not be one I agree with 100% but it is clear, it is democratic, and it is overwhelming.
Butch Willykins
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Icy Gull
Back on the rollercoaster
- Jul 5, 2003
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Going with Corbyn and talking about a 2nd referendum did for Labour before they even started. If you had to put together a Lose campaign I doubt anyone could have done it better than Labour have managed. Madness.
A decent leader and no talk of referendums and Labour would have won by a similar majority to the Torys imo
