[Football] The Football Governance Bill

[chip]

Standards

Is it going to change the value of what they say? It's not like they a presenting information to people who have the highest standards. Confromity is best avoided in my view, I don't trust people in suits, certainly not more than those in t-shirts.

 

[Eeyore]

Parish putting the boot in 'IF the regulator is well informed... it could be a good thing'

In other words: 'We don't think you've got a clue'

 

[Mackenzie]

Kieran Maguire spoke really well, oh to have that confidence.

 

[dwayne]

Wow ... Tony was cut off brutally at the beginning. And I hate to say it bit parish actually spoke better than Tony. Tony seemed a bit unprepared.

Also why has a billionaire only got one suit !!

Ps still love ya bloomy

 

[Eeyore]

Wow ... Tony was cut off brutally at the beginning. And I hate to say it bit parish actually spoke better than Tony. Tony seemed a bit unprepared.

Also why has a billionaire only got one suit !!

Ps still love ya bloomy

I thought they both complemented each other well. And both were visibly annoyed with ignorant questions from people who really don't know much.

I can imagine they will both be having a good bitch about it all on the way out.

 

[Perfidious Albion]

I have watched TB & Steve Parish . They gave a good account of themselves and had all the info at their fingertips.
Thanks for the link

 

[portlock seagull]

What are they exactly supposed to be doing / is it trying to achieve? If it’s an end to corruption in football and/or make it more competitive / look after the non rich 86 other clubs then…aren’t they pissing into the wind somewhat?

 

[Superphil]

Premier League clubs don’t want a regulator so will do whatever they can the derail it.

 

[Herr Tubthumper]

I hate to say it bit parish actually spoke better than Tony. Tony seemed a bit unprepared.

I thought the same. Bloom’s argument about not wanting to be like Germany, France and Spain where one or two clubs dominate wasn’t convincing on the day Man City pretty much won their 5th title in 6 seasons either.

 

[Slum_Wolf]

I thought the same. Bloom’s argument about not wanting to be like Germany, France and Spain where one or two clubs dominate wasn’t convincing on the day Man City pretty much won their 5th title in 6 seasons either.

To be fair Bloom must have only just arrived back from Belgium so was on high after seeing his team win the Belgian Cup for the first time since 1914 and grab a draw at Club Brugge in the league on Monday evening...Parish was just glad to have something else to read beyond architectural plans for imaginary main stand developments.

 

[El Presidente]

The benefits of the regulator are more in sorrow than joy.

There are predators out there (and TB nor SP fall into that category and both spoke well) that see clubs as real estate opportunities (we have our own experience from the Goldstone) and there are others who utilise clubs for nefarious ends that I unfortunately can’t go into in detail.

The arguments against the regulator are

1: Cost. It will cost the PL, which spent £409m in agent Fees last year, £8m a year as a contribution to IR. That’s about £400k per club. Some of the work undertaken by IR can potentially replace what is dine by the PL, whose average cost per staff member is £141k
2: ‘Unintended consequences’ is a smokescreen for not wanting a revised distribution model with the EFL. The PL has ignored the unintended consequences of anchoring, FFP, selling more matches to broadcasters, bringing in new related party transactions rules part way through the season, EPPP and so on.
3; It might deter investors. Correct, it might deter investors such as Bill Archer, Steve Dale, Laurence Bassini, Lee Power, Ken Anderson and David Hilton. Those names may not mean much to some of you but ask fans of the clubs they were associated with.
4: UEFA/FIFA concerns about government interference in football. Yet we have banning orders, Alcohol bans, reselling of tickets, kettling by police and other restrictions as a result of legislation that applies to football and not other sports.
5; The Premier League is great as it is. This is the Premier League that is so great some of its members were behind SuperLeague, Project Big Picture, 39th Game, selling property to themselves to avoid PSR breaches, 115 charges and so on.

I genuinely feel sorry for Richard Masters, he looked a mess at Parlisment on Tuesday, it’s not worth the £1.9m a year if the job is going to have such an impact on his wellbeing.

 

[Zeberdi]

As an update (I know there is a separate thread about the interview with PBOBE (and Tony Bloom voiced his opinion at the Committee stage last year as noted above) but continuing to follow the progress of the bill on this thread (unless @Bozza wants to merge this one too?) - Shortly after Sunak called a GE, the Bill’s progress was suspended (as per usual with Government Bills in election campaigns)

It was then re-introduced by Labour in the King’s Speech in October 2024 (as noted on the original Labour thread)

UPDATED 7 January

The Bill is now in the Committee Stage in the HoL

https://bills.parliament.uk/bills/3832

the Current Bill with amendments to date can be viewed here

https://bills.parliament.uk/publications/56544/documents/5215

 

[Zeberdi]

Not wanting to bog down discussion on the other thread, I’ll keep posting any amendments updates to the Bill here until the Mods decide otherwise:

Amendments to the powers of the Regulator to limit spending proposed in December (House of Lords stage to the Bill)

Of particular note is Lord Markham‘s amendments (removing Clause 22, page 15, line 3, leave out paragraph (c)) opposing that the Bill gives an Independent Football Regulator the power to restrict spending of clubs as a means of ensuring sustainability - he argues that it would be giving overreaching powers to the IFR to impose a licensing condition on Clubs that allows the IFR to stop them spending.

Lord Markham cites Brentford and Brighton as two Clubs which relied heavily on the private investment from TB to bankroll them and were ‘unsustainable’ so would have been unfairly prejudiced by a IFR preventing them from spending:

https://hansard.parliament.uk/lords/2024-12-18/debates/3265F613-6461-4A1B-95B5-9CED4C51D066/Debate

Premier League statement

Clubs agree at AGM to trial an alternative League-wide financial system next season on a non-binding basis

www.premierleague.com

Clubs have two weeks to balance their books under current EPL/FA regulations

Premier League disciplinary charges make clubs rush to balance the books

This week PSR swings into action, with past points deductions against Everton and Forest a stark warning

www.theguardian.com