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The Fear









Dec 16, 2010
3,613
Over there
Not a bad start, some good visual touches and I quite like the moments of eerie stillness. But some of the dialogue was poor and geographical continuity errors were annoying. I'm sure it'll improve and heat up now the characters have been introduced.
 


Boys 9d

Well-known member
Jan 3, 2012
1,855
Lancing
The problem we have is we know the area and pick holes in the geography. I am sure if it was set in Blackpool the locals would have the same sort of criticisms while we would just accept locations and judge the storyline on its own merits or lack of. Incidently I often have problems with the locations in Peter James' books.
 


T soprano

New member
Oct 27, 2011
8,018
Posh end of Shoreham
hate it when films do this.

start at West Pier, heads towards Shoreham, and ends up by the Brighton Wheel :facepalm:

London to Brighton was the same
And quadrophonia still one of my fav films but when they say wow look at that my son that's Brighton( on their scooters) it's not it's Eastbourne
 




Chicken Runner61

We stand where we want!
May 20, 2007
4,609
I'm so glad they had a helpline after the program. There must be loads of sweaty socks who just had their posh hotel firebombed by Albanian gangsters or who have a son who is traumatised by finding a bird he slept with cut in pieces and left in his bed.
 




skipper734

Registered ruffian
Aug 9, 2008
9,189
Curdridge
Not realistic. With such a stake in Brighton, the Sons of the Sweaty would have been 1901 at least. No Blue and White around and no mention of Gus and Tanno's Murray mistake. :ffsparr:
 




Nibble

New member
Jan 3, 2007
19,238
Hopefuly it will get better and that episode was just setting it all up because I thought it was really poorly paced. Lots of nothing punctuated by driving haphazardly around Sussex. I didn't believe the relationship between the Father and Son's and lots of disjointed cliches. I won't spoil it for folks who haven't seen it yet but the opening scene was just nonsense, nobody would do that on that part of the beach at any time of the day, you would be caught instantly. I realise that to people that don't know Brighton that would just look like a dark, secluded part of a secluded beach but it has made a big deal of being set in Brighton, not some nameless seaside town and they should have picked somewhere else. Unless of course I have mistaken the part of the beach he was on. Felt a bit like when Hollyoaks does a late night special for adults.
 








Bevendean Hillbilly

New member
Sep 4, 2006
12,805
Nestling in green nowhere
nobody would do that on that part of the beach at any time of the day, you would be caught instantly. I realise that to people that don't know Brighton that would just look like a dark, secluded part of a secluded beach but it has made a big deal of being set in Brighton,.

Even if you don't know Brighton you probably could see it was Madeira drive/aquarium pier intersection in bright sunlight in heavy traffic...the point was ( I imagine) is that this is a gangster who has gone respectable but his Glasgow street brawler lizard brain is re-emerging as dementia advances. See also the high risk assault on the Albanian Mafiosi. After both of these outbursts of extreme violence he forgets that he's done it and looks confused when others ask him about his split knuckles and suicidal negotiation strategy.
 




mikeyjh

Well-known member
Dec 17, 2008
4,607
Llanymawddwy
I thought it was quite good, think they made his head issues a bit too obvious, a bit too early though. Some of you spent too much time looking at the background, while it's set in 'Brighton', it's really not important whether or not the geography was 'correct'....
 




Bevendean Hillbilly

New member
Sep 4, 2006
12,805
Nestling in green nowhere
You have just shattered a 40 year old dream.

Don't worry lar. Fookin mods don't know dere friggin arses from dere elbows lar. Dey wen down dere to burst de fookin rockers lar an ended up batterin a bunch of auld ladies in fookin rockin chairs lar.
 


DIFFBROOK

Really Up the Junction
Feb 3, 2005
2,267
Yorkshire
You have put it in a nutshell

I would imagine all TV series chop and change locations, its just as non locals you dont notice. I ignored all of geography issues and concentrated on the Gangster.

I'm no expert on Alzheimers, but I'm sure its the latest memories that tend to get lost and the older memories stay in tack. Despite being a pretty frightening guy himself, you can also see that he is also getting pretty frightened himself. As a street fighter he probably knew he could stand toe to toe and hit the other guy harder, but here he was losing his mind in a battle that not even he could win.

You could see his fear bubbling to the service at the end, when he cuddled up to his estranged wife.

I thought it top notch.

Even if you don't know Brighton you probably could see it was Madeira drive/aquarium pier intersection in bright sunlight in heavy traffic...the point was ( I imagine) is that this is a gangster who has gone respectable but his Glasgow street brawler lizard brain is re-emerging as dementia advances. See also the high risk assault on the Albanian Mafiosi. After both of these outbursts of extreme violence he forgets that he's done it and looks confused when others ask him about his split knuckles and suicidal negotiation strategy.
 




Nibble

New member
Jan 3, 2007
19,238
I was happy to ignore the geography but didn't think it was very well written, however it was only the first of four so will keep watching, I do think it will be a good drama taken as a whole. Thinking of not watching them for next few nights and watching it in one go on 4od for my Sunday hangover treat.
 






Surf's Up

Well-known member
Jul 17, 2011
10,435
Here
Hmmmm - arch villain with alzheimers or dementia - should've been set in Bexhill surely?
 


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