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The establishment and historic child sex abuse
- Thread starter Pinkie Brown
- Start date
I guess that means we may hear quite a lot more about him now. I wonder if it is possible to die of shame?
martyn20
Unwell but still smiling
Shocking news, either his part in the scandal will go very quiet or blow up massively and everything will come out, lets hope its the second option
aolstudios
Well-known member
That's two massively convenient deaths in a week.
Funny old world...
Funny old world...
Flex Your Head
Well-known member
And now he has. I am so effing pissed off that this slug was never brought to justice.
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spring hall convert
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When the Dickens file story hit the news I was sceptical over the whole thing, I approached a friend of mine who worked in probation and child protection in London from 83- 92 and he told me in no uncertain terms that he had heard two first hand accounts of abuse the man had perpetrated as well as seen with his own eyes photographic evidence of Leon Brittan fondling a naked boy. He says that it was an open secret in those circles. He also said that the allegation that he was stopped at customs with child sexual abuse images in the early 90's was true.
I would imagine that Fernbridge knew he had cancer, there was probably not enough evidence to convict him so his death may be a positive, in that the MSM may get a little braver in their reporting.
I note William Hague leads the tributes. He was famously the minister that is accused of stifling an enquiry into alleged VIP child abuse in North Wales during his time as Welsh Secretary at the fag end of the Major Government.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...ifled-1996-paedophile-report-says-victim.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/9657036/How-Tory-paedophile-claims-were-covered-up.html
I would imagine that Fernbridge knew he had cancer, there was probably not enough evidence to convict him so his death may be a positive, in that the MSM may get a little braver in their reporting.
I note William Hague leads the tributes. He was famously the minister that is accused of stifling an enquiry into alleged VIP child abuse in North Wales during his time as Welsh Secretary at the fag end of the Major Government.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...ifled-1996-paedophile-report-says-victim.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/9657036/How-Tory-paedophile-claims-were-covered-up.html
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thisistips
New member
What a surprise. Let's get on with it then. Get the whole stinking mess out on the table.
spring hall convert
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Granville Janner's looking very ill at the moment as well.
readingstockport
New member
Greville?
readingstockport
New member
I know it's popbitch again but someone has just posted this......
"Whilst on a short holiday courtesy of the Queen,
we were indulging in the popular pastime of 'Unluckiest Bloke In Here', which was often awarded to myself, when a new arrival from a neighbouring nick said that his ex-cell mate *had* to be The Unluckiest Bloke In The Entire ****ing System.
The gent in question was a career burglar - he specialised in stately homes and the like. And, by all accounts, he was good at it. Anyway, whilst doing a job in some grandee's mansion, he'd been rumbled. Fair cop, etc. A great believer in 'If you can't do the time' etc, he was undaunted by the prospect of 18 months to two years in the pokey - this being the expected sentence by both his knowing friends and his brief.
Dawns the trial, however, and his circumstances have changed. To such an extent that he really doesn't want to do *any* time just now. So he decides to play his Get Out Of Jail Card.
On a job a while before, he'd come across some photos of Leon Brittan and very young boys, and had kept them for a rainy day. Deciding that today's court appearance is very inclement, he pulls out the envelope and shows his brief, who shows it to the prosecution. They approach the judge. The judge immediately adjourns to the following day.
Next day a chap appears replacing our boy's brief and says, "I'm looking out for you now. Don't worry, it's sorted." Our lad winks at his girlfriend, and goes to sleep for the rest of the trial. The judge sums up and says, "This is by far and away the worst case of burglary I've ever seen and as such deserves the maximum sentence. 12 years. Take him down'
Reverend_Goatboy"
http://www.popbitch.com/newboard/38/02/90/0//Whilst-on-a-short-holiday-courtesy-of-th.html
Edit to add, the replies remind me it was in fact Reverend Goatboy who posted the earlier story I mentioned about the tory grandee and RG is the poster who is now sadly deceased.
"Whilst on a short holiday courtesy of the Queen,
we were indulging in the popular pastime of 'Unluckiest Bloke In Here', which was often awarded to myself, when a new arrival from a neighbouring nick said that his ex-cell mate *had* to be The Unluckiest Bloke In The Entire ****ing System.
The gent in question was a career burglar - he specialised in stately homes and the like. And, by all accounts, he was good at it. Anyway, whilst doing a job in some grandee's mansion, he'd been rumbled. Fair cop, etc. A great believer in 'If you can't do the time' etc, he was undaunted by the prospect of 18 months to two years in the pokey - this being the expected sentence by both his knowing friends and his brief.
Dawns the trial, however, and his circumstances have changed. To such an extent that he really doesn't want to do *any* time just now. So he decides to play his Get Out Of Jail Card.
On a job a while before, he'd come across some photos of Leon Brittan and very young boys, and had kept them for a rainy day. Deciding that today's court appearance is very inclement, he pulls out the envelope and shows his brief, who shows it to the prosecution. They approach the judge. The judge immediately adjourns to the following day.
Next day a chap appears replacing our boy's brief and says, "I'm looking out for you now. Don't worry, it's sorted." Our lad winks at his girlfriend, and goes to sleep for the rest of the trial. The judge sums up and says, "This is by far and away the worst case of burglary I've ever seen and as such deserves the maximum sentence. 12 years. Take him down'
Reverend_Goatboy"
http://www.popbitch.com/newboard/38/02/90/0//Whilst-on-a-short-holiday-courtesy-of-th.html
Edit to add, the replies remind me it was in fact Reverend Goatboy who posted the earlier story I mentioned about the tory grandee and RG is the poster who is now sadly deceased.
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Seasidesage
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I wonder how many years they will suppress the truth for this time? The establishment of this country is a disgrace.
Pavilionaire
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- Jul 7, 2003
- 31,274
I feel sorry for Leon Brittan's family. Now he's dead the press will go all 'Jimmy Savile' on him over these lost dossier / paedophile rumours.
It will be interesting to see whether these rumours will now switch from persons living in the present tense to those in the past tense.
It will be interesting to see whether these rumours will now switch from persons living in the present tense to those in the past tense.
spring hall convert
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My predictive text is clearly a fan of Open All Hours.
martyn20
Unwell but still smiling
It took Savile's death for the truth to come out, we do want to know the truth don't we?
Pavilionaire
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- Jul 7, 2003
- 31,274
Too right we do. It's important that no one is above the law of the land, and it's important that the systemic covering-up of wrongdoing by the Establishment has to be exposed and must cease herewith. If that means royalty, top politicians, judges, civil servants and bankers get found guilty of crimes then that is a price worth paying for living in a fair and transparent society.
spring hall convert
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readingstockport
New member
Perhaps you should feel more sorry for the children he allegedly raped. Bare in mind, he had no children I believe. Only step children for some reason.
Amd the press went all 'jimmy saville' because saville was a child rapist not because he was innocent in case you haven't realised.
Del Fenner
Because of Boxing Day
Interesting take by Paul Foot in 1989 on the Leon Brittan story.
https://ianpace.wordpress.com/tag/paul-foot/
https://ianpace.wordpress.com/tag/paul-foot/
Pavilionaire
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- Jul 7, 2003
- 31,274
No need to be patronising. I was merely speculating as to how the media coverage might develop now Brittan is dead.