The establishment and historic child sex abuse

[8ace]

Ding dong the nonce is dead.

 

[Titanic]

Leon Brittan died last night.

http://order-order.com/2015/01/22/breaking-leon-brittan-dead/

I guess that means we may hear quite a lot more about him now. I wonder if it is possible to die of shame?

 

[martyn20]

Shocking news, either his part in the scandal will go very quiet or blow up massively and everything will come out, lets hope its the second option

 

[aolstudios]

That's two massively convenient deaths in a week.
Funny old world...

 

[Quinney]

Dropping like flies. About time they cracked on with it before any more untimely deaths.

 

[Flex Your Head]

http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-29855265

Ridiculous that she was ever appointed. Almost like they're spinning this out for as long as possible hoping that certain former cabinet ministers might die in the meantime...

And now he has. I am so effing pissed off that this slug was never brought to justice.

 

[spring hall convert]

When the Dickens file story hit the news I was sceptical over the whole thing, I approached a friend of mine who worked in probation and child protection in London from 83- 92 and he told me in no uncertain terms that he had heard two first hand accounts of abuse the man had perpetrated as well as seen with his own eyes photographic evidence of Leon Brittan fondling a naked boy. He says that it was an open secret in those circles. He also said that the allegation that he was stopped at customs with child sexual abuse images in the early 90's was true.

I would imagine that Fernbridge knew he had cancer, there was probably not enough evidence to convict him so his death may be a positive, in that the MSM may get a little braver in their reporting.

I note William Hague leads the tributes. He was famously the minister that is accused of stifling an enquiry into alleged VIP child abuse in North Wales during his time as Welsh Secretary at the fag end of the Major Government.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...ifled-1996-paedophile-report-says-victim.html
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/9657036/How-Tory-paedophile-claims-were-covered-up.html

 

[thisistips]

Leon Brittan died last night.

http://order-order.com/2015/01/22/breaking-leon-brittan-dead/

What a surprise. Let's get on with it then. Get the whole stinking mess out on the table.

 

[spring hall convert]

Granville Janner's looking very ill at the moment as well.

 

[readingstockport]

Greville?

 

[readingstockport]

I know it's popbitch again but someone has just posted this......

"Whilst on a short holiday courtesy of the Queen,
we were indulging in the popular pastime of 'Unluckiest Bloke In Here', which was often awarded to myself, when a new arrival from a neighbouring nick said that his ex-cell mate *had* to be The Unluckiest Bloke In The Entire ****ing System.
The gent in question was a career burglar - he specialised in stately homes and the like. And, by all accounts, he was good at it. Anyway, whilst doing a job in some grandee's mansion, he'd been rumbled. Fair cop, etc. A great believer in 'If you can't do the time' etc, he was undaunted by the prospect of 18 months to two years in the pokey - this being the expected sentence by both his knowing friends and his brief.
Dawns the trial, however, and his circumstances have changed. To such an extent that he really doesn't want to do *any* time just now. So he decides to play his Get Out Of Jail Card.
On a job a while before, he'd come across some photos of Leon Brittan and very young boys, and had kept them for a rainy day. Deciding that today's court appearance is very inclement, he pulls out the envelope and shows his brief, who shows it to the prosecution. They approach the judge. The judge immediately adjourns to the following day.
Next day a chap appears replacing our boy's brief and says, "I'm looking out for you now. Don't worry, it's sorted." Our lad winks at his girlfriend, and goes to sleep for the rest of the trial. The judge sums up and says, "This is by far and away the worst case of burglary I've ever seen and as such deserves the maximum sentence. 12 years. Take him down'

Reverend_Goatboy"
http://www.popbitch.com/newboard/38/02/90/0//Whilst-on-a-short-holiday-courtesy-of-th.html

Edit to add, the replies remind me it was in fact Reverend Goatboy who posted the earlier story I mentioned about the tory grandee and RG is the poster who is now sadly deceased.

 

[Seasidesage]

I wonder how many years they will suppress the truth for this time? The establishment of this country is a disgrace.

 

[Pavilionaire]

I feel sorry for Leon Brittan's family. Now he's dead the press will go all 'Jimmy Savile' on him over these lost dossier / paedophile rumours.

It will be interesting to see whether these rumours will now switch from persons living in the present tense to those in the past tense.

 

[spring hall convert]

Greville?

My predictive text is clearly a fan of Open All Hours.

 

[martyn20]

I feel sorry for Leon Brittan's family. Now he's dead the press will go all 'Jimmy Savile' on him over these lost dossier / paedophile rumours.

It will be interesting to see whether these rumours will now switch from persons living in the present tense to those in the past tense.

It took Savile's death for the truth to come out, we do want to know the truth don't we?

 

[Pavilionaire]

It took Savile's death for the truth to come out, we do want to know the truth don't we?

Too right we do. It's important that no one is above the law of the land, and it's important that the systemic covering-up of wrongdoing by the Establishment has to be exposed and must cease herewith. If that means royalty, top politicians, judges, civil servants and bankers get found guilty of crimes then that is a price worth paying for living in a fair and transparent society.

 

[spring hall convert]

Here we go - https://twitter.com/ExaroNews/status/558352045519159296

 

[readingstockport]

I feel sorry for Leon Brittan's family. Now he's dead the press will go all 'Jimmy Savile' on him over these lost dossier / paedophile rumours.

It will be interesting to see whether these rumours will now switch from persons living in the present tense to those in the past tense.

Perhaps you should feel more sorry for the children he allegedly raped. Bare in mind, he had no children I believe. Only step children for some reason.

Amd the press went all 'jimmy saville' because saville was a child rapist not because he was innocent in case you haven't realised.

 

[Del Fenner]

Interesting take by Paul Foot in 1989 on the Leon Brittan story.

https://ianpace.wordpress.com/tag/paul-foot/

The following passage comes from Paul Foot, Who Framed Colin Wallace? (London: Macmillan, 1989), pp. 394-395.

If a secret state like this is allowed to grow unchecked all democratic politicians are at risk. it is no use right-wing politicians imagining that they themselves will be safe from the secret state, perhaps because they have more in common with each other politically. The monster, once fed, will grow hungrier. The upholders of the secret state regard all democratic politicians as traitors to the true cause, and will attack them just as readily as they attacked Harold Wilson or Merlyn Rees in the past. Early on in the miners’ strike of 1984, a vile rumour about the personal behaviour of the Home Secretary, Leon Brittan, started to circulate among journalists. The information was, as I eventually discovered, completely untrue. But it had about it just enough of the ‘ring of truth’ to make it sound credible. Anyone who believed it for an instant would have wanted Leon Brittan removed from office at once. After checking that the information was wrong, I then strove for many days to find its source. It was nowhere to be found. Everybody had ‘heard it from somewhere else’. Sometimes they could remember where they heard it, but that source would prove as maddeningly vague about his source – and so on, endlessly to nothing. Fortunately for Mr Brittan, the rumour never got into print. But where did it come from? So untrue was it that it could not have originated in that part of Britain where the ‘event’ was said to have taken place. It must have been entirely made up. But who could or would have made it up, save those same operators in the Intelligence service who, perhaps, did not want a Jew with a faintly liberal reputation to be leading the government offensive against the miners and in nominal control of MI5. This was by no means the first time that anti-Semitic propaganda against the large number of Jews in Mrs Thatcher’s circle has insidiously circulated among journalists and politicians.

 

[Pavilionaire]

Perhaps you should feel more sorry for the children he allegedly raped. Bare in mind, he had no children I believe. Only step children for some reason.

Amd the press went all 'jimmy saville' because saville was a child rapist not because he was innocent in case you haven't realised.

No need to be patronising. I was merely speculating as to how the media coverage might develop now Brittan is dead.