The establishment and historic child sex abuse

[Seasidesage]

I'm still waiting for an actual live politician to be charged and face trial

****ing this!

This is an absolute scandal. The establishment of the country closing ranks to protect their own regardless of political colour. What amazes me about this is how little outrage is being generated over it. Could it possibly be that the media has been bought? Surely not?

 

[carlzeiss]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...laims-financial-impropriety-sexual-abuse.html

 

[Billy the Fish]

b) Survivors that have waived their right to anonymity and have said that some of their abuse took place with a police guard.
c) We already know that MI5 and MI6 both had child molesters in top, top positions. The secret service was compromised so what faith do we have that elements of organisations weren't sympathetic to paedophiles.

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For me this is one of the worst things about this whole sordid subject. Since Savile was outed how many times have we seen quotes from people who witnessed things but looked the other way for one reason or another? There's plenty just on this thread.

Somewhere there are police officers and members of the security services who know what went on but covered it up. I'd imagine there's plenty of people legally bound by the official secrets act who are still worried about getting banged up for saying anything.

 

[martyn20]

Quite I do wonder about someone dead for ten years...He can`t defend himself and can hardly be punished now..Can you get done for theft, speeding or parking fine after you are dead ?

He can't be punished as he is dead there will be no trial but getting to the truth is still important, hearing peoples stories that until 2 days ago had kept this quiet all their lives or worse they had been classed as liars all their lives.

 

[dingodan]

This argument the shills are presenting about Heath having 24 hour secret service presence is total bullshit.

a) We already know that one of the allegations is in 1961, before he became PM.
b) Survivors that have waived their right to anonymity and have said that some of their abuse took place with a police guard.
c) We already know that MI5 and MI6 both had child molesters in top, top positions. The secret service was compromised so what faith do we have that elements of organisations weren't sympathetic to paedophiles.

Laughably, I've just heard Lord Sherbourne describe it as 'out of character' for Heath on Radio 5. We're not so dumb as to think he barreled into the House of Commons red faced and with his trousers round his ankles. Serial child molesters by their very nature are secretive as they tend to not want people to know.

The other two shills I've seen wheeled out so far are the biographer, who clearly, at best, has a vested interest in being right about Heath and Wilf Weeks his former PPS who I would suggest is less than impartial and also was working for Heath.

Yeah, I heard yesterday that it couldn't be true because otherwise Special Branch would have know about it...

 

[dennis]

Heath was the one PM who did have a life away from No10 while in charge. Sailing on his boat was his private life and he did an awful lot of it. The whole point of many of these cases is the police and security services knew what these people were doing and either turned a blind eye or actively helped.

I've got a funny feeling that the boat going to and from a certain childrens home in Jersey will feature somewhere.

 

[martyn20]

Brothel madam who threatened to expose Ted Heath as a paedophile is unmasked - as FIVE police forces reveal they are now probing PM sex claims

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...brothel-just-one-mile-home.html#ixzz3hwPfvkvs
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[martyn20]

I've got a funny feeling that the boat going to and from a certain childrens home in Jersey will feature somewhere.

I have always said Jersey is the weak link, so many people know the truth out there, the police basically made the whole thing public a few years ago before it was halted and silenced.

 

[spring hall convert]

I have always said Jersey is the weak link, so many people know the truth out there, the police basically made the whole thing public a few weeks ago before it was halted and silenced.

And who were the police force brought into cover it up?

Wiltshire Police, the same force that is under investigation from the IPCC about the 90's Heath allegation.

 

[glasfryn]

Jeez is there any police force that is not under investigation for something or another
gets back to my question on here years ago who the hell can you trust

 

[spring hall convert]

Jeez is there any police force that is not under investigation for something or another
gets back to my question on here years ago who the hell can you trust

I really hope that the police aren't scapegoated though. Clearly there are officers of all ranks who will need to be disciplined but the real story here is a conspiracy going on way above their heads.

Having said that. This emerged today

" A Metropolitan Police officer has been charged with raping a teenager.
PC John Wigglesworth, 46, a transport police officer has been charged with two counts of raping a girl aged 13-15 and two counts of engaging in sexual activity with a girl aged 13-15. All charges related to the time period between 2008 and 2010.
He is due before Redbridge Magistrates' Court later and has been suspended from the force."

 

[simmo]

****ing this!

This is an absolute scandal. The establishment of the country closing ranks to protect their own regardless of political colour. What amazes me about this is how little outrage is being generated over it. Could it possibly be that the media has been bought? Surely not?

Couldn't agree more. The Greville Janner non prosecution is an utter disgrace and an affront to our judicial system. I don't care if he is on his death bed. Get him into court if the evidence is there to (potentially) convict.

 

[spring hall convert]

Couldn't agree more. The Greville Janner non prosecution is an utter disgrace and an affront to our judicial system. I don't care if he is on his death bed. Get him into court if the evidence is there to (potentially) convict.

He's supposed to be in court tomorrow. Two hopes of that happening, Bob and No.

 

[martyn20]

He's supposed to be in court tomorrow. Two hopes of that happening, Bob and No.

Whether he appears does not really matter anymore, the truth will not come out fully

 

[Mo Gosfield]

Jeez is there any police force that is not under investigation for something or another
gets back to my question on here years ago who the hell can you trust

Sadly, very few in public office.
It is a safe haven for the innate perversion that emanates from a certain type of upbringing. i.e Boarding School, Public School, Oxbridge, Civil Service. Self-confident men, who know that the system will protect them and their nefarious activities. It is a network of perversion and corruption.
For a long time these individuals have infiltrated schools, youth organisations, the Scout movement, sports clubs and the church. Government, the Civil Service, the Police force and the Judiciary is riddled with them. All protecting each other. All part of the network of abuse and crime. Those that are supposed to be protecting us are the worst offenders.
Hundreds and hundreds, in high office, have been at it for years and nothing has been done. A blind eye conveniently turned. The Establishment is rotten to the core.
They rely on influence, control and power and the apathy of the general public to carry on their sordid activities. For a long time they have regarded themselves as untouchable. Maybe the tide is just very slowly starting to turn against them. It will take a long time. It is inbred and inherent and regarded as a privilege of power. These individuals have to be the subjects of a witch-hunt. They have to be publicly humiliated and incarcerated.

 

[aolstudios]

Sadly, very few in public office.
It is a safe haven for the innate perversion that emanates from a certain type of upbringing. i.e Boarding School, Public School, Oxbridge, Civil Service. Self-confident men, who know that the system will protect them and their nefarious activities. It is a network of perversion and corruption.
For a long time these individuals have infiltrated schools, youth organisations, the Scout movement, sports clubs and the church. Government, the Civil Service, the Police force and the Judiciary is riddled with them. All protecting each other. All part of the network of abuse and crime. Those that are supposed to be protecting us are the worst offenders.
Hundreds and hundreds, in high office, have been at it for years and nothing has been done. A blind eye conveniently turned. The Establishment is rotten to the core.
They rely on influence, control and power and the apathy of the general public to carry on their sordid activities. For a long time they have regarded themselves as untouchable. Maybe the tide is just very slowly starting to turn against them. It will take a long time. It is inbred and inherent and regarded as a privilege of power. These individuals have to be the subjects of a witch-hunt. They have to be publicly humiliated and incarcerated.

This. All of it

 

[spring hall convert]

For a long time these individuals have infiltrated schools, youth organisations, the Scout movement, sports clubs and the church. Government, the Civil Service, the Police force and the Judiciary is riddled with them.

You forgot royal family.

 

[dingodan]

I still believe that "fraternities" like freemasonary have been infiltrated and used by these kinds of people. Those are really the only kinds of places you could find judges, police officers & politicians being able to network out of the public eye.

 

[spring hall convert]

"Ted Heath: Brothel owner at the centre of child abuse storm denies threatening to expose former prime minister"

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...eatening-to-expose-former-prime-minister.html

 

[Titanic]

"A former brothel keeper has denied accusing ex-Prime Minister Edward Heath of involvement in child sexual abuse.

Myra Forde's former lawyer says she did not state that Sir Edward was a client, nor did she threaten to expose him if a prosecution against her was continued.

Forde says she has "no knowledge of any misconduct on his part" and recent media coverage had caused her distress."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-33794974

Has she been 'got at' by the Illuminati and/or are the BBC part of the cover-up?