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The establishment and historic child sex abuse
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martyn20
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Really? Online?
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KIT NAPIER
This particular one was emailed to me by an investigative journalist friend. But it and others are circulating online. The page I have names 21 high profile people - some of whom are now dead and one is known only by his pseudonym as an escort of a VERY famous pop star.
Two that can be named, because they are dead and you cannot libel the dead are: Cyril Smith MP and Ron Brown MP.
- Aug 7, 2003
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You only need to google "Elm Guest House list" and look at images
martyn20
Unwell but still smiling
That's a different set of documents
Seagull over Canaryland
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The whole matter is grotesque and although deeply unpalatable I believe there is rightly now a desire to expose those (unlike the recent cases involving celebrities) who were in positions of influence and then exerted control over what evidence reached the public domain - and more importantly what was 'buried'.
No doubt this matter is potentially corrosive for past Governments and a test of willpower for current politicians especially with as it seems, many senior reputations being implicated, exposed and destroyed. Whether we actually see the full extent of this malaise remains to be seen.
I would not be surprised to see the inquiry extend to a couple of notorious incidents in Sussex that were purported to be linked to alleged child abuse cases at childrens homes elsewhere in the UK. I recall questions raised at that time and seemingly never fully resolved in the public domain. I guess these case files will now be very hot potatoes, and I hope they are intact and secured against interference!
No doubt this matter is potentially corrosive for past Governments and a test of willpower for current politicians especially with as it seems, many senior reputations being implicated, exposed and destroyed. Whether we actually see the full extent of this malaise remains to be seen.
I would not be surprised to see the inquiry extend to a couple of notorious incidents in Sussex that were purported to be linked to alleged child abuse cases at childrens homes elsewhere in the UK. I recall questions raised at that time and seemingly never fully resolved in the public domain. I guess these case files will now be very hot potatoes, and I hope they are intact and secured against interference!
On the Left Wing
KIT NAPIER
I refer to my earlier post about Bill Hodgson tipping me off 23 years ago and add this for the sake of Martyn20 and others (all legally safe): Carol Kazir – guest house owner
X A top person in charge of MI5.
Y MI5 officer
The documents identify:
Two former Conservative cabinet ministers.
7 Further MPs – 4 Other Tories 2 Labour 1 Liberal
Several figures with links to the right wing Conservative Monday Club
A leading figure in the National Front, now dead
A Sinn Fein member
2 Buckingham Palace Officials
2 Pop Stars
Anthony Blunt said to have used the name ‘Antony Goldstein’
From my own personal knowledge as a former investigative journalist and the shenanigans of two former Labour cabinet ministers I believe all this to be genuine.
X A top person in charge of MI5.
Y MI5 officer
The documents identify:
Two former Conservative cabinet ministers.
7 Further MPs – 4 Other Tories 2 Labour 1 Liberal
Several figures with links to the right wing Conservative Monday Club
A leading figure in the National Front, now dead
A Sinn Fein member
2 Buckingham Palace Officials
2 Pop Stars
Anthony Blunt said to have used the name ‘Antony Goldstein’
From my own personal knowledge as a former investigative journalist and the shenanigans of two former Labour cabinet ministers I believe all this to be genuine.
martyn20
Unwell but still smiling
Those are documents relating to The Elm Guest House which have been in the public domain since the mid 1980's and are all online. The missing dossier that was handed over to the Home Office from Geoffrey Dickens, the missing 144, are not these papers.
Discodoktor
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Seagull over Canaryland
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Scanning through the positions of influence on that list does make you wonder about the potential for a conspiracy especially when you read of certain incidents that subsequently occurred and have a whiff of being more than just strange coincidences. Break-ins, disappearing files etc. Maybe that is just my suspicious and enquiring mind.....
The two incidents in Sussex that were suggested at the time as being allegedly related to notorious child abuse cases elsewhere certainly involved the untimely demise of alleged witnesses in separate, unpleasant incidents, both within a short timescale and in very questionable circumstances.....
dingodan
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- Feb 16, 2011
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From what he's saying it sounds like he knows of a person or persons who are ready to talk.
spring hall convert
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Carol Kazir herself died in extremely questionable circumstances.
martyn20
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There is not going to be a rush to de-classify anything involved in this case
spring hall convert
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This defies belief. The IRA were bombing the mainland at this point.
dingodan
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- Feb 16, 2011
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Then consider that he would have been doing these things - with members of parliament, the cabinet, MI5, Buckingham Palace...
During that time...